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Have you seen Youtube or Reddit comments on anything? They don't reflect real-life. Youtube is probably the worst, most trollish comments of the "normal" intern

Have you seen Youtube or Reddit comments on anything? They don't reflect real-life. Youtube is probably the worst, most trollish comments of the "normal" internet and Reddit is a sort of progressive propaganda machine that will also call for the death penalty on a teenager that did something stupid (which lots of teenagers do) or a karen that was an asshole in a restaurant and isn't happy with her life. I haven't visited twitter in ten years or more so can't comment on that.

kelseyfrog 2y ago
I've had conversations with real people in real life who also overwhelmingly share the sentiment. It's not an internet bubble.
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  Those people are probably reading the same websites as you. I swear, users of a site have no kind of memory. Literally a month ago everyone on reddits jaw was agape as trump was declared the winner. After months of redditors telling each other Kamala would win in a landslide and Trump was floundering, and no one was coming to his rallies, etc. And now they're doing the same thing, telling each other that everyone in America loves that a dude was murdered in the street of NY(with a gun, literally 3' away from a random individual)
  - kelseyfrog 2y ago
    Nah, this is just moving the goalposts from "it's an Internet bubble" to "it's your personal bubble". I don't buy it. Neo-*ism ideologies share a common myth - the myth of necessary order. This forms a contradiction that if enforced by more order will self-correct with stocastic violence. Sorry, but that's simply reality.
    - IncreasePosts 2y ago
      "internet bubbles" don't exist solely on the Internet, they exist in the minds of people spending a lot of time on the internet on certain sites. They manifest on the Internet commonly. But they also manifest in the "real world" when those people communicate with others. Go ahead and deceive yourself that you're not in an echo chamber. I'm sure that will help you understand reality better.
      - wiml 2y ago
        You imply that you have access to some unvarnished truth, unlike the other commenters who are trapped in their bubbles. What is your justification for this belief? Is it possible for other people to have access to this higher truth, or is it something innate to you?
        IncreasePosts 2y ago
        My justification I guess is repeatedly seeing various commenters on certain sites espousing the same things in almost the same language. Then some event happened in the real world and they all start asking themselves "how could this happen", again, commonly in similar language. Meanwhile, I'm shocked that those people didn't see X. Sure, it's possible to acquire my magnificent skills, by just going out and interacting with a wide swath of people in the real world. Even, instead of thinking that you're getting any kind of signal about society when you read the same meme comment on Reddit/Twitter or whatever, just imagine you actually have no idea, even if you've read the 5000th tweet expressing the same idea
        kelseyfrog 2y ago
        But you could say that about anything including the opposite. I see a bunch of people who say that "CEO-killing is wrong. Therefore they must be in an internet bubble." I think we should both admit that the consistency of a message isn't actually a good signal for "bubbleness" and that something like randomized polling on personal beliefs and perceptions or a similar study actually would be.

kelseyfrog 2y ago

I've had conversations with real people in real life who also overwhelmingly share the sentiment. It's not an internet bubble.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
Those people are probably reading the same websites as you. I swear, users of a site have no kind of memory. Literally a month ago everyone on reddits jaw was agape as trump was declared the winner. After months of redditors telling each other Kamala would win in a landslide and Trump was floundering, and no one was coming to his rallies, etc. And now they're doing the same thing, telling each other that everyone in America loves that a dude was murdered in the street of NY(with a gun, literally 3' away from a random individual)
- kelseyfrog 2y ago
  Nah, this is just moving the goalposts from "it's an Internet bubble" to "it's your personal bubble". I don't buy it. Neo-*ism ideologies share a common myth - the myth of necessary order. This forms a contradiction that if enforced by more order will self-correct with stocastic violence. Sorry, but that's simply reality.
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    "internet bubbles" don't exist solely on the Internet, they exist in the minds of people spending a lot of time on the internet on certain sites. They manifest on the Internet commonly. But they also manifest in the "real world" when those people communicate with others. Go ahead and deceive yourself that you're not in an echo chamber. I'm sure that will help you understand reality better.
    - wiml 2y ago
      You imply that you have access to some unvarnished truth, unlike the other commenters who are trapped in their bubbles. What is your justification for this belief? Is it possible for other people to have access to this higher truth, or is it something innate to you?
      - IncreasePosts 2y ago
        My justification I guess is repeatedly seeing various commenters on certain sites espousing the same things in almost the same language. Then some event happened in the real world and they all start asking themselves "how could this happen", again, commonly in similar language. Meanwhile, I'm shocked that those people didn't see X. Sure, it's possible to acquire my magnificent skills, by just going out and interacting with a wide swath of people in the real world. Even, instead of thinking that you're getting any kind of signal about society when you read the same meme comment on Reddit/Twitter or whatever, just imagine you actually have no idea, even if you've read the 5000th tweet expressing the same idea
        kelseyfrog 2y ago
        But you could say that about anything including the opposite. I see a bunch of people who say that "CEO-killing is wrong. Therefore they must be in an internet bubble." I think we should both admit that the consistency of a message isn't actually a good signal for "bubbleness" and that something like randomized polling on personal beliefs and perceptions or a similar study actually would be.