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I love brave. By far the best browsing experience. Gets rid of so much garbage adware.

by anonymousDan 2y ago

itake 2y ago
Brave replaces their adware with their own adware..
- mistrial9 2y ago
  reading with Brave now, seeing no adware
  - sumeno 2y ago
    It's not always the adware that you see that is the problem. They've hidden it in the past and there's no reason to think they won't again in the future if they aren't already
    - BrendanEich 2y ago
      We didn't hide "adware", probably you are thinking of this: https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ We made $0 off it, it was a blunder, we fixed it right away. But if you mean something else, please let me know.
      - sumeno 2y ago
        Off the top of my head there's that, collecting money for others and keeping it, and replacing ads with your own. All of which are adware/malware behavior. How many "oopsies" do you think people are going to overlook before realizing you are just a scam artist?
        mistrial9 2y ago
        I completely disagree with the slant on this summary. The ad business with The Google shaped American business and then quite a lot of the entire Internet. A company is formed to build something different, in that economic context. I turned off my ad options in Brave as soon as I learned how. I do not participate in their ad market. Yet I find Brave a great browser for multiple reasons. Am I filled with angst and retaliatory drive because Brave tried to start an ad ecosystem ? Maybe for a minute, but compared to the winners in that space, and their almost uncountable monetary fortunes.. no. There is a business layer to society. Personal characterizations of "scam artist" pale compared to the bigger scam artists, who wear suits and have expensive attorneys. Perfect is in short supply. Let Brave Browser compete and make some people annoyed because of ads. Let me turn off my ad options and use their reliable browser.
        BrendanEich 2y ago
        How many falsehoods carelessly repeated from you before people consider you a liar? We never collected others’ money for creators, the grants were from our user growth pool. My product people learned a lesson on “right to publicity”, however I should have caught the bad design on that front so blame me for not looking closely - which is not a scam, it’s an error. Replacing ads with our own never happened. We talked about doing it with publisher opt in, but the triple conversion (pub would have to get enough nonblocking readers to switch to Brave, we would need to get of those users to opt in, then we’d have to sell pub on 70% revshare from ads to those converted users) odds too low. Smearing me if you don’t like my politics is bad. If that’s not a factor then consider checking your facts before parroting such false or distorted stories.
  - creativenolo 2y ago
    I am with you and totally confused we are here discussing this. Oh wait, every time I get a new computer I think you need to dismiss a couple of things. But _the rest of the time_ it is ad free browsing and watching. If people are commenting otherwise, they either haven’t used Brave or are missing they are seriously missing something.
    - XxCincinnatusxX 2y ago
      Yeah I don't know what they're talking about either. I believe they probably just aren't aware that the browser has settings you can configure to your liking
  - rolobio 2y ago
    What about the constant Brave Premium ads? I got many notifications every day asking me to pay them, I couldn’t find a way to disable them. They had intrusive ads for premium in every new tab page as well. Interrupting my work to ask me to send you money is unacceptable, Mozilla has never done that to me.
    - thekevan 2y ago
      I've used Brave for years and have never seen them. In fact, I didn't know "Brave Premium" existed.
      - EasyMark 2y ago
        It’s really easy to disable that stuff. I use as my “incognito” browser, it has some of the best anti fingerprinting capabilities and I just have it delete everything when I exit. I know tor browser is better but tor network is just too slow for me to do casual incognito browsing
    - XxCincinnatusxX 2y ago
      If you take a minute and go through the settings one time, I think you could figure out how to disable what you don't like and enable what you do like. I use several browsers but with Brave I haven't seen anything like what you're describing probably just because I disabled it in the settings
      - kerkeslager 2y ago
        Meanwhile, with, say Orion, I don't have to disable the adware in the settings because it doesn't ship with adware.
talldayo 2y ago
> Gets rid of so much garbage adware. My brother in Christ you are literally using the Blink engine. Your daily driver is the equivalent of an adware jalopy.
- BrendanEich 2y ago
  Not so. The Chromium bits have the native tracking goo we neutralize, see https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-%28features-we-disable-or-remove%29 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-....
bayindirh 2y ago
Instead, I don't visit the sites which drown me with ads, and subscribe to good websites directly. No need to use harmful software.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  How is it harmful? It’s never take a dime from me and it’s easy to turn off the crypto/ad junk
technofiend 2y ago
May I suggest Firefox plus an ad blocking extension such as uBlock Origin? Enable every option, opt-in to every list and the web reverts to something a bit more palatable.
- christophilus 2y ago
  Doesn’t work on iOS. Is there a good alternative there?
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    Orion browser made by kagi seems good!
- thekevan 2y ago
  In my experience, on my PC, it uses more CPU. Also, I use "search by image" a ton. So not having that or "open image in a new tab" are deal breakers. Yes, I know I could install an extension, but I don't think I should have to install an extension for every feature that is missing for my use case.
  - orev 2y ago
    I use “Open image in new tab” on Firefox all the time. Maybe the site you’re using is doing something in JavaScript to block it?
    - veqq 2y ago
      ctrl+shift+right click overrides any such js
- anotherhue 2y ago
  I feel like I have to watch mozilla like a hawk to catch their latest auto-installed auto-optin user-hostile bullshit. You'd think Brave would be the sketchy one but it has actually been wonderful and very consistent.
kerkeslager 2y ago
But Brave is garbage adware.

I love brave. By far the best browsing experience. Gets rid of so much garbage adware.

itake 2y ago

Brave replaces their adware with their own adware..

mistrial9 2y ago
reading with Brave now, seeing no adware
- sumeno 2y ago
  It's not always the adware that you see that is the problem. They've hidden it in the past and there's no reason to think they won't again in the future if they aren't already
  - BrendanEich 2y ago
    We didn't hide "adware", probably you are thinking of this: https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ We made $0 off it, it was a blunder, we fixed it right away. But if you mean something else, please let me know.
    - sumeno 2y ago
      Off the top of my head there's that, collecting money for others and keeping it, and replacing ads with your own. All of which are adware/malware behavior. How many "oopsies" do you think people are going to overlook before realizing you are just a scam artist?
      - mistrial9 2y ago
        I completely disagree with the slant on this summary. The ad business with The Google shaped American business and then quite a lot of the entire Internet. A company is formed to build something different, in that economic context. I turned off my ad options in Brave as soon as I learned how. I do not participate in their ad market. Yet I find Brave a great browser for multiple reasons. Am I filled with angst and retaliatory drive because Brave tried to start an ad ecosystem ? Maybe for a minute, but compared to the winners in that space, and their almost uncountable monetary fortunes.. no. There is a business layer to society. Personal characterizations of "scam artist" pale compared to the bigger scam artists, who wear suits and have expensive attorneys. Perfect is in short supply. Let Brave Browser compete and make some people annoyed because of ads. Let me turn off my ad options and use their reliable browser.
      - BrendanEich 2y ago
        How many falsehoods carelessly repeated from you before people consider you a liar? We never collected others’ money for creators, the grants were from our user growth pool. My product people learned a lesson on “right to publicity”, however I should have caught the bad design on that front so blame me for not looking closely - which is not a scam, it’s an error. Replacing ads with our own never happened. We talked about doing it with publisher opt in, but the triple conversion (pub would have to get enough nonblocking readers to switch to Brave, we would need to get of those users to opt in, then we’d have to sell pub on 70% revshare from ads to those converted users) odds too low. Smearing me if you don’t like my politics is bad. If that’s not a factor then consider checking your facts before parroting such false or distorted stories.
- creativenolo 2y ago
  I am with you and totally confused we are here discussing this. Oh wait, every time I get a new computer I think you need to dismiss a couple of things. But _the rest of the time_ it is ad free browsing and watching. If people are commenting otherwise, they either haven’t used Brave or are missing they are seriously missing something.
  - XxCincinnatusxX 2y ago
    Yeah I don't know what they're talking about either. I believe they probably just aren't aware that the browser has settings you can configure to your liking
- rolobio 2y ago
  What about the constant Brave Premium ads? I got many notifications every day asking me to pay them, I couldn’t find a way to disable them. They had intrusive ads for premium in every new tab page as well. Interrupting my work to ask me to send you money is unacceptable, Mozilla has never done that to me.
  - thekevan 2y ago
    I've used Brave for years and have never seen them. In fact, I didn't know "Brave Premium" existed.
    - EasyMark 2y ago
      It’s really easy to disable that stuff. I use as my “incognito” browser, it has some of the best anti fingerprinting capabilities and I just have it delete everything when I exit. I know tor browser is better but tor network is just too slow for me to do casual incognito browsing
  - XxCincinnatusxX 2y ago
    If you take a minute and go through the settings one time, I think you could figure out how to disable what you don't like and enable what you do like. I use several browsers but with Brave I haven't seen anything like what you're describing probably just because I disabled it in the settings
    - kerkeslager 2y ago
      Meanwhile, with, say Orion, I don't have to disable the adware in the settings because it doesn't ship with adware.

talldayo 2y ago

> Gets rid of so much garbage adware. My brother in Christ you are literally using the Blink engine. Your daily driver is the equivalent of an adware jalopy.

BrendanEich 2y ago
Not so. The Chromium bits have the native tracking goo we neutralize, see https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-%28features-we-disable-or-remove%29 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-....

bayindirh 2y ago

Instead, I don't visit the sites which drown me with ads, and subscribe to good websites directly. No need to use harmful software.

EasyMark 2y ago
How is it harmful? It’s never take a dime from me and it’s easy to turn off the crypto/ad junk

technofiend 2y ago

May I suggest Firefox plus an ad blocking extension such as uBlock Origin? Enable every option, opt-in to every list and the web reverts to something a bit more palatable.

christophilus 2y ago
Doesn’t work on iOS. Is there a good alternative there?
- aaomidi 2y ago
  Orion browser made by kagi seems good!
thekevan 2y ago
In my experience, on my PC, it uses more CPU. Also, I use "search by image" a ton. So not having that or "open image in a new tab" are deal breakers. Yes, I know I could install an extension, but I don't think I should have to install an extension for every feature that is missing for my use case.
- orev 2y ago
  I use “Open image in new tab” on Firefox all the time. Maybe the site you’re using is doing something in JavaScript to block it?
  - veqq 2y ago
    ctrl+shift+right click overrides any such js
anotherhue 2y ago
I feel like I have to watch mozilla like a hawk to catch their latest auto-installed auto-optin user-hostile bullshit. You'd think Brave would be the sketchy one but it has actually been wonderful and very consistent.

kerkeslager 2y ago

But Brave is garbage adware.