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What kind of society would we create if legitimise murder of citizens because another citizen disagrees with them? We invented rule of law and the ballot box t

by pipes 2y ago

What kind of society would we create if legitimise murder of citizens because another citizen disagrees with them? We invented rule of law and the ballot box to protect ourselves from each other. Yes it may be inefficient and may produce results we don't like, but once it becomes ok to murder people you disagree with, that legitimises killing anyone.

pixxel 2y ago
> disagree This word is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your comment. A parasite was terminated.
vouaobrasil 2y ago
There are always exceptions. This is an extreme case.
acdha 2y ago
I don’t disagree that we shouldn’t be condoning murder but consider that the rule of law and ballot box are not effectively preventing healthcare costs from being a leading cause of bankruptcy, drug addiction / homelessness (read through the fentanyl stories and note how many started with a car crash or workplace injury with medication and physical therapy cut off before the patient was fully recovered), and people dying or having life-altering conditions because they couldn’t get the care they needed earlier. We can’t just say murder is wrong while refusing to do anything about a system which reliably produces large numbers of deaths annually because the alternative would be lower profits. Put another way, how many Americans have cheered seeing Batman tackle an industrialist who killed a fraction of the number of Americans who die because they can’t get adequate healthcare? I strongly agree that gunning people down for perceived injustice isn’t anywhere we want to be but that means we have to actually fix the problems. Here’s a survey which found 34M Americans know someone who died because they couldn’t get healthcare, and 58M couldn’t get medication they needed – those numbers are very high if you want a peaceful society: https://news.gallup.com/poll/268094/millions-lost-someone-couldn-afford-treatment.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/268094/millions-lost-someone-co...

by pipes 2y ago

pixxel 2y ago

> disagree This word is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your comment. A parasite was terminated.

vouaobrasil 2y ago

There are always exceptions. This is an extreme case.

acdha 2y ago

I don’t disagree that we shouldn’t be condoning murder but consider that the rule of law and ballot box are not effectively preventing healthcare costs from being a leading cause of bankruptcy, drug addiction / homelessness (read through the fentanyl stories and note how many started with a car crash or workplace injury with medication and physical therapy cut off before the patient was fully recovered), and people dying or having life-altering conditions because they couldn’t get the care they needed earlier. We can’t just say murder is wrong while refusing to do anything about a system which reliably produces large numbers of deaths annually because the alternative would be lower profits. Put another way, how many Americans have cheered seeing Batman tackle an industrialist who killed a fraction of the number of Americans who die because they can’t get adequate healthcare? I strongly agree that gunning people down for perceived injustice isn’t anywhere we want to be but that means we have to actually fix the problems. Here’s a survey which found 34M Americans know someone who died because they couldn’t get healthcare, and 58M couldn’t get medication they needed – those numbers are very high if you want a peaceful society: https://news.gallup.com/poll/268094/millions-lost-someone-couldn-afford-treatment.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/268094/millions-lost-someone-co...