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I really don't think most billionaires know professional killers. Where would they have met them? The idea that someone at JP Morgan introduces you to them when

I really don't think most billionaires know professional killers. Where would they have met them? The idea that someone at JP Morgan introduces you to them when their company IPOs doesn't pass the smell test for me.

dgfitz 2y ago
I think it’s the classic “hey personal assistant to whom I pay 200k/yr, I have a problem, can you handle it discretely?” Kind of thing.
- deadbabe 2y ago
  Fast way to get blackmailed and end up in prison. You need to get connections by ensuring the person recommending you a pro-killer has incentive to ensure you are not discovered.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
    There's the classic strategy of being vauge-but-clear with one's orders ("Can you deal with this?" "Your Honor, I didn't tell him to kill anyone!") but, disregarding that, it doesn't seem in the employee's best interest. Where does the assistant's $200k/year come from after that? What if the blackmail attempt is rebuffed and the now-former assistant becomes a target for their former employer's new assistant?
    - JamesBarney 2y ago
      Most personal assistants are not going to go find an hire a contract killer for their 200k a year job.
      - dgfitz 2y ago
        I think focusing on the salary number misses the forest for the trees. The specific number isn’t the point. “Everyone has a price” or something.
      - parpfish 2y ago
        yeah, that entry-level FAANG engineer money. and i'm PRETTY sure that those folks aren't paid enough that they're willing to kill for their boss
        jordanb 2y ago
        Reminds me of that scene in Silicon Valley where Gavin clearly wants the protestors killed and he keeps dropping less and less subtle hints at his goons who clearly aren't having it.
        motorest 2y ago
        > yeah, that entry-level FAANG engineer money. In the US Amazon pays their SDE1s around $100k/year,with $160k total compensation that is actually relocation bonus bundled with vested stock paid in 4 years. Elsewhere, salaries are even lower. So, definitely not entry level FANG engineer money.
      - antihero 2y ago
        The whole point of fixers are that you pay them a high price and they have a lot of connections and knowledge and can make things happen, and a reputation of discretion to uphold.
    - IshKebab 2y ago
      https://youtu.be/Q1qKVuf1aFQ?si=siqGgzXS_Yctvh_Z https://youtu.be/Q1qKVuf1aFQ?si=siqGgzXS_Yctvh_Z
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  Think of all the numerous cases of wealthy people winding up in court because they were ratted on by their underlings over things far more minor than requesting they find a hit man, and ask yourself again why what you describe is both uncommon and a bad idea. On the other hand, if you're wealthy and already a crime figure, working with and having work for you people who know you have organized crime contacts and resources, then yes, you could find "fixers" and assistants who would do just what you describe, probably for less money too. They'd already be part of the same world and comfortable with requests like these while also knowing that you're not just some schmuck rich guy who can't really retaliate against them if they squeal or fuck up. Your anger over a mistake would have more weight. Even then however, many lower-rung people in organized crime are also quite stupid and reckless, and think here too of the many wealthy criminals who also wind up in court because they were ratted on by their now protected, cooperating witness underlings.

dgfitz 2y ago

I think it’s the classic “hey personal assistant to whom I pay 200k/yr, I have a problem, can you handle it discretely?” Kind of thing.

deadbabe 2y ago
Fast way to get blackmailed and end up in prison. You need to get connections by ensuring the person recommending you a pro-killer has incentive to ensure you are not discovered.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
  There's the classic strategy of being vauge-but-clear with one's orders ("Can you deal with this?" "Your Honor, I didn't tell him to kill anyone!") but, disregarding that, it doesn't seem in the employee's best interest. Where does the assistant's $200k/year come from after that? What if the blackmail attempt is rebuffed and the now-former assistant becomes a target for their former employer's new assistant?
  - JamesBarney 2y ago
    Most personal assistants are not going to go find an hire a contract killer for their 200k a year job.
    - dgfitz 2y ago
      I think focusing on the salary number misses the forest for the trees. The specific number isn’t the point. “Everyone has a price” or something.
    - parpfish 2y ago
      yeah, that entry-level FAANG engineer money. and i'm PRETTY sure that those folks aren't paid enough that they're willing to kill for their boss
      - jordanb 2y ago
        Reminds me of that scene in Silicon Valley where Gavin clearly wants the protestors killed and he keeps dropping less and less subtle hints at his goons who clearly aren't having it.
      - motorest 2y ago
        > yeah, that entry-level FAANG engineer money. In the US Amazon pays their SDE1s around $100k/year,with $160k total compensation that is actually relocation bonus bundled with vested stock paid in 4 years. Elsewhere, salaries are even lower. So, definitely not entry level FANG engineer money.
    - antihero 2y ago
      The whole point of fixers are that you pay them a high price and they have a lot of connections and knowledge and can make things happen, and a reputation of discretion to uphold.
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    https://youtu.be/Q1qKVuf1aFQ?si=siqGgzXS_Yctvh_Z https://youtu.be/Q1qKVuf1aFQ?si=siqGgzXS_Yctvh_Z
southernplaces7 2y ago
Think of all the numerous cases of wealthy people winding up in court because they were ratted on by their underlings over things far more minor than requesting they find a hit man, and ask yourself again why what you describe is both uncommon and a bad idea. On the other hand, if you're wealthy and already a crime figure, working with and having work for you people who know you have organized crime contacts and resources, then yes, you could find "fixers" and assistants who would do just what you describe, probably for less money too. They'd already be part of the same world and comfortable with requests like these while also knowing that you're not just some schmuck rich guy who can't really retaliate against them if they squeal or fuck up. Your anger over a mistake would have more weight. Even then however, many lower-rung people in organized crime are also quite stupid and reckless, and think here too of the many wealthy criminals who also wind up in court because they were ratted on by their now protected, cooperating witness underlings.