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> We have a system of laws and courts to decide what is criminal. Good when it works, but what happens when it fails?
by justinclift 2y ago
> We have a system of laws and courts to decide what is criminal.
Good when it works, but what happens when it fails?
- s1artibartfast 2y agoyeah, blood in the street and mass death and destruction. Everyone killing everyone.
- giardini 2y agoJumped the shark there, dude! But some of these posts are hilarious over-the-top horseshit. Seriously... Get a grip. For all we know the shooter was pissed b/c his girlfriend was banging the health insurance executive while babysitting for him! [I would loooove for HN to have optionally-visible meta-threads, so onlookers like me could sit in the gallery, drink a beer, joke and remark about what is posted w/o affecting the stream of thought. Now back to y'all...]
- justinclift 2y agoActually, that'd indeed be pretty funny at times. ;)
- justinclift 2y agoThat sounds pretty extreme. There's a large amount of possibility between those two positions. ;)
- coldpie 2y agoSo, what do you propose to do to fix it? I don't think scolding people on HN is going to accomplish much.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI dont know how to talk people from normalized murder.
- coldpie 2y agoForget the individuals. How do you fix the system that lead people to feel this way?
- vouaobrasil 2y agoNo way. Humanity since the dawn of time has always had the potential to mob when things became dire. We still have it today, only it is more controlled via technology and rationality. This killing will not start anarchy. But it does have the capability to start a resistance against existing power structures, and that is what everyone is actually (consciously or unconsciously) worried about. We are only conditioned to believe that anarchy might ensue as that is the easiest way to instill fear of rebellion against the power structure.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoYes, and mobbing often leads to mass deaths and people worse off than the state before. I dont think this is the straw that breaks the camel's back or anything. It just seems like one more incremental step in the wrong direction. Maybe I'm sensitive because I have been reading about the french revolution, and how mob rule lead to mass murder which left everyone worse off.
- justinclift 2y ago> mob rule lead to mass murder which left everyone worse off. From your point of view was the "everyone left worse off" a short term thing, or did it eventually come good for most, or something else?
- s1artibartfast 2y agoI think the french revolution left everyone worse off than if it didnt happen, The first republic didnt address any one the underlying economic issues. The failure of populist mob governance lead to first empire, and the Napoleonic wars which killed several percent of Europe's population (~6million) in France's attempt to loot its way back to economic prosperity.
- justinclift 2y agoSounds like a reasonable way to look at it. How far along the path do you reckon the US is to the same kind of thing?