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Yeah but they "detect" the characteristic AI style: The limited way it structures sentences, the way it lays out arguments, the way it tends to close with an "i

Yeah but they "detect" the characteristic AI style: The limited way it structures sentences, the way it lays out arguments, the way it tends to close with an "in conclusion" paragraph, certain word choices, etc. o1-Pro doesn't do any of that. It writes like a human. Damnit. It's too good. It just saved me ~6 hours in drafting a complicated and bespoke legal document. Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did a better job in five minutes than I could have done over those six hours. Homework is over. Journalism is over. A large slice of the legal profession is over. For real this time.

dr_dshiv 2y ago
> Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did a better job in five minutes than I could have done over those six hours. Seems like lawyers could do more faster because they know what they are doing. Experts dont get replaced, they get tools to amplify and extend their expertise
- energy123 2y ago
  Replacement doesn't happen only if the demand for their services scales proportional to the productivity improvements, which is true sometimes but not always true, and is less likely to be true if the productivity improvements are very large.
dgacmu 2y ago
ahh, but: > I know what I'm doing Is exactly the key element in being able to use spicy autocomplete. If you don't know what you're doing, it's going to bite you and you won't know it until it's too late. "GPT messed up the contract" is not an argument I would envy anyone presenting in court or to their employer. :) (I say this mostly from using tools like copilot)
- Sleaker 2y ago
  Well... Lawyers already got slapped for filings straight from ai output. So not new territory as far as that's concerned :)
ionwake 2y ago
sold. Ill buy it, thx for review. Edit> Its good. Thanks again for ur review.
mongol 2y ago
Journalism is not only about writing. It is about sources, talking to people, being on the ground, connecting dots, asking the right questions. Journalists can certainly benefit from AI and good journalists will have jobs for a long time still.
- koyote 2y ago
  While the above is true, I'd say the majority of what passes as journalism these days has none of the above and the writing is below what an AI writer could produce :( It's actually surprising how many articles on 'respected' news websites have typos. You'd think there would be automated spellcheckers and at least one 'peer review' (probably too much to ask an actual editor to review the article these days...).
  - JohnBooty 2y ago
    It's actually surprising how many articles on 'respected' news websites have typos. Well, that's why they're respected! The typos let you know they're not using AI!
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Mainstream news today is written for an 8th grade reading ability. Many adults would lose interest otherwise, and the generation that grew up reading little more than social media posts will be even worse. AI can handle that sort of writing just fine, readers won't care about the formulaic writing style.
- umeshunni 2y ago
  These days, most journalism is turning reddit posts and tweets into long form articles with some additional context.
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    So AI could actually turn journalism more into what it originally was: reporting what is going on, rather than reading and rewriting information from other sources. Interesting possibility.
j45 2y ago
It still needs to be driven by someone who knows what they're doing. Just like when software that was coming out, it may have ended jobs. But it also helped get things done that wouldn't otherwise, or as much. In this case, equipping a capable lawyer to be 20x is more like an iron man suit, which is OK. If you can get more done, wit less effort, you are still critical to what's needed.
solarkraft 2y ago
> Homework is over. Journalism is over. A large slice of the legal profession is over. For real this time. It just replaces human slop with automated slop. It doesn't automate finding hidden things out just yet, just automates blogspam.

dr_dshiv 2y ago

> Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did a better job in five minutes than I could have done over those six hours. Seems like lawyers could do more faster because they know what they are doing. Experts dont get replaced, they get tools to amplify and extend their expertise

energy123 2y ago
Replacement doesn't happen only if the demand for their services scales proportional to the productivity improvements, which is true sometimes but not always true, and is less likely to be true if the productivity improvements are very large.

dgacmu 2y ago

ahh, but: > I know what I'm doing Is exactly the key element in being able to use spicy autocomplete. If you don't know what you're doing, it's going to bite you and you won't know it until it's too late. "GPT messed up the contract" is not an argument I would envy anyone presenting in court or to their employer. :) (I say this mostly from using tools like copilot)

Sleaker 2y ago
Well... Lawyers already got slapped for filings straight from ai output. So not new territory as far as that's concerned :)

ionwake 2y ago

sold. Ill buy it, thx for review. Edit> Its good. Thanks again for ur review.

mongol 2y ago

Journalism is not only about writing. It is about sources, talking to people, being on the ground, connecting dots, asking the right questions. Journalists can certainly benefit from AI and good journalists will have jobs for a long time still.

koyote 2y ago
While the above is true, I'd say the majority of what passes as journalism these days has none of the above and the writing is below what an AI writer could produce :( It's actually surprising how many articles on 'respected' news websites have typos. You'd think there would be automated spellcheckers and at least one 'peer review' (probably too much to ask an actual editor to review the article these days...).
- JohnBooty 2y ago
  It's actually surprising how many articles on 'respected' news websites have typos. Well, that's why they're respected! The typos let you know they're not using AI!
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Mainstream news today is written for an 8th grade reading ability. Many adults would lose interest otherwise, and the generation that grew up reading little more than social media posts will be even worse. AI can handle that sort of writing just fine, readers won't care about the formulaic writing style.
umeshunni 2y ago
These days, most journalism is turning reddit posts and tweets into long form articles with some additional context.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  So AI could actually turn journalism more into what it originally was: reporting what is going on, rather than reading and rewriting information from other sources. Interesting possibility.

j45 2y ago

It still needs to be driven by someone who knows what they're doing. Just like when software that was coming out, it may have ended jobs. But it also helped get things done that wouldn't otherwise, or as much. In this case, equipping a capable lawyer to be 20x is more like an iron man suit, which is OK. If you can get more done, wit less effort, you are still critical to what's needed.

solarkraft 2y ago

> Homework is over. Journalism is over. A large slice of the legal profession is over. For real this time. It just replaces human slop with automated slop. It doesn't automate finding hidden things out just yet, just automates blogspam.