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The real story with this assassination is how broadly popular it is across political, race, sex and even class lines, and how the MSM is completely ignoring tha

by y33t 2y ago

The real story with this assassination is how broadly popular it is across political, race, sex and even class lines, and how the MSM is completely ignoring that angle.

edavison1 2y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-insurance-industry-brian-thompson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-ins...
- araes 2y ago
  Archive.is version NYTimes story for paywall [1] [1] https://archive.is/DiRbs https://archive.is/DiRbs
- Analemma_ 2y ago
  I'm not exaggerating for hyperbole: literally every single time I've ever seen a comment online of the form "why isn't the MSM talking about X", I've clicked over to the homepage of the New York Times and seen X right there.
  - edavison1 2y ago
    Yeah it's unfortunate that we're in this place culturally but seems like just using the phrase suggests a lack of engagement with it so I guess it makes sense in some wacky way.
bdangubic 2y ago
that is most definitely nowhere near the "real story" - it is not even in the top-1000 of the "real story" not just because it is not true but because it is not a story :)
netsharc 2y ago
It feels like living through the 2019 Joker movie, everyone's lost a sense of what's decent and what's not. At the risk of derailing the conversation, people are even arguing whether dropping bombs on women and children is humane or not, and far too many are finding excuses to say it's fine. Meanwhile the assassin needs a name.. the Midtown Hilton Shooter? The 3D Killer? (since there were 3 bullets found with D-words written on them). Don't be greedy, or The 3D-Killer will go after you next!
- nataliste 2y ago
  >Meanwhile the assassin needs a name.. the Midtown Hilton Shooter? The 3D Killer? I'm partial to the Chief Executive Offerer.
  - netsharc 2y ago
    Offerer sounds more like one who offers something. How about "Chief Officer Executor"?
- stonogo 2y ago
  When your business is cost control on human life, it's not surprising that decency goes out the door. Also the media seem to have settled on "Citi Bike Assassin."
  - andrewinardeer 2y ago
    A Citi Bike was killed?
  - kamaal 2y ago
    >>When your business is cost control on human life, it's not surprising that decency goes out the door. Bingo! Not sure why many people are missing this point. Beneath all this. The healthcare industry, doctors, pharma companies and all connected infrastructure has a simple equation. Their profits co-relate directly with human suffering. That is, the more you suffer, the more they get rich. And for some people in the chain, their very survival, like making a living depends on this. You can't have a decent, even bearable conversation when somebody begins an argument on this premise. Notice how you refusing to suffer might appear indecent to them. I have known some doctors get angry on patients here in India for asking questions on alternate lines of treatments. Sometimes they have commissions from insurance, diagnostics and even suppliers, and they find it unfair that the patients think about their own good and not about the doctors. So you mean to say you are not willing to suffer to help me make money? So cruel of you! There are lots of industries like these. Weapons manufacturing and Armed forces is another one. Im sure the thought of absence of wars, and some long term peace would be deeply disturbing to people in that ecosystem. Notice how this is different compared to something like hospitality business, where profits co-relate directly with customer joy and inversely with customer dissatisfaction. The real issue with the health care industry is their profits lie in hurting people, not helping them.
vikingerik 2y ago
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- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  Are you saying it's hypocritical to approve of the death of someone perceived as evil, but not someone perceived as innocent? You can challenge those perceptions if you want, but what's the point you're making?
- moomin 2y ago
  You appreciate that accessing healthcare isn’t really and economic concern?
- ktallett 2y ago
  I do assume his strict rules, in the healthcare company, he was the ceo of, which rejected 61% of claims, has caused numerous deaths, directly and indirectly.
- sudosysgen 2y ago
  I think it is frankly insulting to compare someone being sued for maliciously denying lifesaving healthcare and causing a vast amount of wrongful suffering to innocent children being blown up.
- mulmen 2y ago
  Have you actually reviewed post histories or are you treating Redditors as a single entity here?
  - bitnasty 2y ago
    > the commenter known as Reddit
- ls612 2y ago
  Americans are learning the hard way that universal morality only works when you are utterly unchallenged in your strength. Once things start going south people who profess to believe whatever moral things won't feel a shred of sadness if hurting you benefits them and their family.
aithrowawaycomm 2y ago
> how the MSM is completely ignoring that angle. This is clearly and obviously false, and using an acronym like "MSM" (which is so slippery as to be meaningless) suggests you don't actually care whether it's false. I hate that the internet encourages ideologically-motivated lying. https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-little-sympathy-murdered-health-223930677.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-little-sympathy-murdere... https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-ceo-killed-meme/76794715007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/12/... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-insurance-industry-brian-thompson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-ins... https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/05/brian-thompson-shooting-unitedhealthcare-ceo-reactions-contempt-anger/ https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/05/brian-thompson-shooti... https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/healthcare-industry-rethinks-risk-after-murder-unitedhealth-exec-2024-12-05/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... https://www.barrons.com/articles/united-healthcare-brian-thompson-shooting-insurance-denials-8da77627 https://www.barrons.com/articles/united-healthcare-brian-tho... https://www.axios.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealth-brian-thompson-killing-health-insurers-social-media https://www.axios.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealth-brian-thompson...

by y33t 2y ago

The real story with this assassination is how broadly popular it is across political, race, sex and even class lines, and how the MSM is completely ignoring that angle.

edavison1 2y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-insurance-industry-brian-thompson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-ins...

araes 2y ago
Archive.is version NYTimes story for paywall [1] [1] https://archive.is/DiRbs https://archive.is/DiRbs
Analemma_ 2y ago
I'm not exaggerating for hyperbole: literally every single time I've ever seen a comment online of the form "why isn't the MSM talking about X", I've clicked over to the homepage of the New York Times and seen X right there.
- edavison1 2y ago
  Yeah it's unfortunate that we're in this place culturally but seems like just using the phrase suggests a lack of engagement with it so I guess it makes sense in some wacky way.

bdangubic 2y ago

that is most definitely nowhere near the "real story" - it is not even in the top-1000 of the "real story" not just because it is not true but because it is not a story :)

netsharc 2y ago

It feels like living through the 2019 Joker movie, everyone's lost a sense of what's decent and what's not. At the risk of derailing the conversation, people are even arguing whether dropping bombs on women and children is humane or not, and far too many are finding excuses to say it's fine. Meanwhile the assassin needs a name.. the Midtown Hilton Shooter? The 3D Killer? (since there were 3 bullets found with D-words written on them). Don't be greedy, or The 3D-Killer will go after you next!

nataliste 2y ago
>Meanwhile the assassin needs a name.. the Midtown Hilton Shooter? The 3D Killer? I'm partial to the Chief Executive Offerer.
- netsharc 2y ago
  Offerer sounds more like one who offers something. How about "Chief Officer Executor"?
stonogo 2y ago
When your business is cost control on human life, it's not surprising that decency goes out the door. Also the media seem to have settled on "Citi Bike Assassin."
- andrewinardeer 2y ago
  A Citi Bike was killed?
- kamaal 2y ago
  >>When your business is cost control on human life, it's not surprising that decency goes out the door. Bingo! Not sure why many people are missing this point. Beneath all this. The healthcare industry, doctors, pharma companies and all connected infrastructure has a simple equation. Their profits co-relate directly with human suffering. That is, the more you suffer, the more they get rich. And for some people in the chain, their very survival, like making a living depends on this. You can't have a decent, even bearable conversation when somebody begins an argument on this premise. Notice how you refusing to suffer might appear indecent to them. I have known some doctors get angry on patients here in India for asking questions on alternate lines of treatments. Sometimes they have commissions from insurance, diagnostics and even suppliers, and they find it unfair that the patients think about their own good and not about the doctors. So you mean to say you are not willing to suffer to help me make money? So cruel of you! There are lots of industries like these. Weapons manufacturing and Armed forces is another one. Im sure the thought of absence of wars, and some long term peace would be deeply disturbing to people in that ecosystem. Notice how this is different compared to something like hospitality business, where profits co-relate directly with customer joy and inversely with customer dissatisfaction. The real issue with the health care industry is their profits lie in hurting people, not helping them.

vikingerik 2y ago

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add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Are you saying it's hypocritical to approve of the death of someone perceived as evil, but not someone perceived as innocent? You can challenge those perceptions if you want, but what's the point you're making?
moomin 2y ago
You appreciate that accessing healthcare isn’t really and economic concern?
ktallett 2y ago
I do assume his strict rules, in the healthcare company, he was the ceo of, which rejected 61% of claims, has caused numerous deaths, directly and indirectly.
sudosysgen 2y ago
I think it is frankly insulting to compare someone being sued for maliciously denying lifesaving healthcare and causing a vast amount of wrongful suffering to innocent children being blown up.
mulmen 2y ago
Have you actually reviewed post histories or are you treating Redditors as a single entity here?
- bitnasty 2y ago
  > the commenter known as Reddit
ls612 2y ago
Americans are learning the hard way that universal morality only works when you are utterly unchallenged in your strength. Once things start going south people who profess to believe whatever moral things won't feel a shred of sadness if hurting you benefits them and their family.

aithrowawaycomm 2y ago

> how the MSM is completely ignoring that angle. This is clearly and obviously false, and using an acronym like "MSM" (which is so slippery as to be meaningless) suggests you don't actually care whether it's false. I hate that the internet encourages ideologically-motivated lying. https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-little-sympathy-murdered-health-223930677.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-little-sympathy-murdere... https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/12/05/unitedhealthcare-ceo-killed-meme/76794715007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/12/... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-insurance-industry-brian-thompson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/nyregion/social-media-ins... https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/05/brian-thompson-shooting-unitedhealthcare-ceo-reactions-contempt-anger/ https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/05/brian-thompson-shooti... https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/healthcare-industry-rethinks-risk-after-murder-unitedhealth-exec-2024-12-05/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... https://www.barrons.com/articles/united-healthcare-brian-thompson-shooting-insurance-denials-8da77627 https://www.barrons.com/articles/united-healthcare-brian-tho... https://www.axios.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealth-brian-thompson-killing-health-insurers-social-media https://www.axios.com/2024/12/05/unitedhealth-brian-thompson...