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The liquid democracy thing I find interesting. I guess I don’t trust that anyone with any semblance of power actually wants something that looks like direct de

The liquid democracy thing I find interesting. I guess I don’t trust that anyone with any semblance of power actually wants something that looks like direct democracy, so I’m suss that it would ever be implemented in a fair way, and I’m curious how something would be implemented by a group of people who are probably biased to believe the historical warnings against direct democracy.

wslh 2y ago
I think the issues to evolve our democracies are not directly connected with technologies (e.g. crypto). Indeed as an incumbent I see that crypto "wants to" reinvent democracy and at the end they only find that they are just reinventing the wheel, or resulting in a square wheel. Democracy seems more linked to institutions and great organizations with strong fundamentals and good vision. Regarding liquid democracy specifically I think it inherit the problems of issue oriented politics: "don’t miss the forest for the trees", democracies are looking for short term clientelistic policies because the short term pays better to politicians.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  > Democracy seems more linked to institutions and great organizations with strong fundamentals and good vision. Right. No part of me believes we'd have this functional a society today if the founders of America had resembled the values, motivations, and access to technology of the crypto/tech community.
toomim 2y ago
I'm building a liquid democracy. The cool thing is that we won't bother applying it to "democracy" first — the killer app will actually be to computer your news feed, in a way that you control through your social network, rather than an AI. Here's a prototype of it: https://peeryview.org https://peeryview.org. Check out the /about page. It's like Reddit or HN, but instead if having a single "moderator" with monopoly power over a set of "voters" with one vote each; you weight everyone's vote for your unique feed. And they weight a second layer of people's votes, etc. We call this network a Web-of-Opinions, or a WoO. The Woo is subjective. It's soft. It's social. It determines your attention (in the news feed). As it grows, it creates a new game-resistant reputation system, aka a "Liquid Democracy", that can be used for many things: like a Proof of Personhood, or an actual Democracy. We just announced a protocol draft last week at https://braid.org/meeting-99 https://braid.org/meeting-99. If you're interested, please give feedback here, in the braid group, or write me directly at toomim@gmail. This is the time!

wslh 2y ago

I think the issues to evolve our democracies are not directly connected with technologies (e.g. crypto). Indeed as an incumbent I see that crypto "wants to" reinvent democracy and at the end they only find that they are just reinventing the wheel, or resulting in a square wheel. Democracy seems more linked to institutions and great organizations with strong fundamentals and good vision. Regarding liquid democracy specifically I think it inherit the problems of issue oriented politics: "don’t miss the forest for the trees", democracies are looking for short term clientelistic policies because the short term pays better to politicians.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
> Democracy seems more linked to institutions and great organizations with strong fundamentals and good vision. Right. No part of me believes we'd have this functional a society today if the founders of America had resembled the values, motivations, and access to technology of the crypto/tech community.

toomim 2y ago

I'm building a liquid democracy. The cool thing is that we won't bother applying it to "democracy" first — the killer app will actually be to computer your news feed, in a way that you control through your social network, rather than an AI. Here's a prototype of it: https://peeryview.org https://peeryview.org. Check out the /about page. It's like Reddit or HN, but instead if having a single "moderator" with monopoly power over a set of "voters" with one vote each; you weight everyone's vote for your unique feed. And they weight a second layer of people's votes, etc. We call this network a Web-of-Opinions, or a WoO. The Woo is subjective. It's soft. It's social. It determines your attention (in the news feed). As it grows, it creates a new game-resistant reputation system, aka a "Liquid Democracy", that can be used for many things: like a Proof of Personhood, or an actual Democracy. We just announced a protocol draft last week at https://braid.org/meeting-99 https://braid.org/meeting-99. If you're interested, please give feedback here, in the braid group, or write me directly at toomim@gmail. This is the time!