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That's really interesting; thanks. I didn't realize the loudness wars had "ended", though I suppose with a lot of streaming services normalizing levels across p

That's really interesting; thanks. I didn't realize the loudness wars had "ended", though I suppose with a lot of streaming services normalizing levels across playlists, there's less benefit. On the physical aspect - I do miss that from CDs, especially looking through liner notes. Streaming in particular made remembering albums difficult for me. I still find the convenience (especially when it comes to storage!) of digital worth the trade-off though, so now I have everything ripped or bought digitally and available from my media server. It's not quite the same as browsing through CDs, but it's a lot closer. 10k records is quite the commitment - that must need a dedicated room? My ~300 CDs were annoying enough to store, lol.

louthy 2y ago
> I didn't realize the loudness wars had "ended", though I suppose with a lot of streaming services normalizing levels across playlists, there's less benefit. Exactly this. If you're destroying the dynamic-range of your song so that it sounds louder, only for it to be turned down based on perceived loudness (LUFS [1]), then all you're doing is making your song worse. "Ended" might be an extreme statement, you still need to maximise loudness, but destroying dynamic range, to the extent that was happening before, isn't needed any more. > I still find the convenience (especially when it comes to storage!) of digital worth the trade-off though Me too. I play most music off Spotify, don't have an issue with that, just need to find out what everything I like was called :D I was a DJ at a pro-level for a long time (from 1999), so vinyl was how I got fresh underground music each week. Going to record stores listening to what had just come in. Used to get vinyl promos too, but those have long since finished, all promos are digital now. I haven't really taken DJing seriously for more than a decade now, but if I'm buying music to play then I still buy vinyl (again for the UX, not some pretentious 'vinyl is better' reasons). For home listening though, digital is better quality and easier to access. Personally, I prefer having the extra fidelity also. > 10k records is quite the commitment - that must need a dedicated room? Two rooms, under the stairs, and some are used as to partially acoustically treat my studio [2], although that doesn't make them particularly easy to access! Not all vinyl was made equal ;) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUFS [2] https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9swzlgk3wszeq6jfjxmw1/IMG_1411.heic?rlkey=lvujqh9bk80juoxxtg01xatj7&st=72vvrywv&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9swzlgk3wszeq6jfjxmw1/IMG_141...

louthy 2y ago

> I didn't realize the loudness wars had "ended", though I suppose with a lot of streaming services normalizing levels across playlists, there's less benefit. Exactly this. If you're destroying the dynamic-range of your song so that it sounds louder, only for it to be turned down based on perceived loudness (LUFS [1]), then all you're doing is making your song worse. "Ended" might be an extreme statement, you still need to maximise loudness, but destroying dynamic range, to the extent that was happening before, isn't needed any more. > I still find the convenience (especially when it comes to storage!) of digital worth the trade-off though Me too. I play most music off Spotify, don't have an issue with that, just need to find out what everything I like was called :D I was a DJ at a pro-level for a long time (from 1999), so vinyl was how I got fresh underground music each week. Going to record stores listening to what had just come in. Used to get vinyl promos too, but those have long since finished, all promos are digital now. I haven't really taken DJing seriously for more than a decade now, but if I'm buying music to play then I still buy vinyl (again for the UX, not some pretentious 'vinyl is better' reasons). For home listening though, digital is better quality and easier to access. Personally, I prefer having the extra fidelity also. > 10k records is quite the commitment - that must need a dedicated room? Two rooms, under the stairs, and some are used as to partially acoustically treat my studio [2], although that doesn't make them particularly easy to access! Not all vinyl was made equal ;) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUFS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUFS [2] https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9swzlgk3wszeq6jfjxmw1/IMG_1411.heic?rlkey=lvujqh9bk80juoxxtg01xatj7&st=72vvrywv&dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9swzlgk3wszeq6jfjxmw1/IMG_141...