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Apple Releases iCloud Passwords Add-On for Firefox

57 points by frizlab 2y ago

snapcaster 2y ago
This is great! constantly annoyed at not having this
Someone1234 2y ago
While a welcome addition, it doesn't move the needle for me personally. I like my passwords to be cross platform, easily exportable, and plus this puts too many eggs into the Apple basket. Currently, no Android support, and you need a Mac to export your passwords into a CSV. I'll stick to Bitwarden until Enshittification takes them. Still feel like Bitwarden's Firefox addon hasn't received many improvements since I started using it years ago, still annoying when it loses focus and closes while copying credentials out.
dblitt 2y ago
Note that this requires native iCloud support on the host machine, so macOS or the iCloud app on Windows (no Linux support)
- beretguy 2y ago
  > no Linux support Yeah, that makes it useless to me.
- highwaylights 2y ago
  I'm hearing mixed information about whether this even works on Windows (I've been told the Firefox version of the extension only works for macOS, not sure how correct this is).
foolfoolz 2y ago
i have used many password managers over the years and am now 100% only on icloud. it isn’t the best (i would love custom attributes), but it’s the best to sync it to my icloud account if they could do this on windows i would be very happy
- riscy 2y ago
  There is iCloud for Windows: https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/what-is-icloud-for-windows-icwd3c1cca5e/icloud https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/what-is-iclou...
great_psy 2y ago
Does this lower the protection iCloud offers ? Currently you need to use biometric or password to access your keys. If you use the extension will it make a copy of the passwords locally, or does it still require biometric on every password access ? Also would be nice to have logs and see exactly which passwords re being retrieved by the add on. I know it’s apple made but still feels like an extra vector.
- talldayo 2y ago
  I don't know if it's possible for iCloud's security to go any lower: https://www.xda-developers.com/icloud-windows-photos-from-strangers/ https://www.xda-developers.com/icloud-windows-photos-from-st...
  - DrBenCarson 2y ago
    There is absolutely no detail or evidence provided in that article that. Literally just “some people are saying”
- clemiclemen 2y ago
  Biometric or password is necessary for every access (which may be an inconvenience for some). Basically, the addon communicates with a native application on the OS (the iCloud application on Windows or the password application on macOS) so there is nothing stored in Firefox.
Bondi_Blue 2y ago
Since this lacks support for Firefox on Linux, using the built-in password manager with a Firefox account still feels like the easiest cross-platform solution.
- setopt 2y ago
  If you by “cross platform” also want iPhone support, 1Password is pretty great.
  - samtheDamned 2y ago
    Firefox passwords work pretty well on iphone for me
ksec 2y ago
I guess I can finally move off Safari. The only thing holding me back was the password / iCloud Keychain integration. Webkit as an Engine may have improved a lot. As evidence with Orion using the same webkit is simply a much better browser. Safari for whatever reason simply hasn't caught on. Compared to all the improvement Chrome and Firefox has had over the years.

57 points by frizlab 2y ago

This is great! constantly annoyed at not having this

While a welcome addition, it doesn't move the needle for me personally. I like my passwords to be cross platform, easily exportable, and plus this puts too many eggs into the Apple basket. Currently, no Android support, and you need a Mac to export your passwords into a CSV. I'll stick to Bitwarden until Enshittification takes them. Still feel like Bitwarden's Firefox addon hasn't received many improvements since I started using it years ago, still annoying when it loses focus and closes while copying credentials out.

dblitt 2y ago

Note that this requires native iCloud support on the host machine, so macOS or the iCloud app on Windows (no Linux support)

beretguy 2y ago
> no Linux support Yeah, that makes it useless to me.
highwaylights 2y ago
I'm hearing mixed information about whether this even works on Windows (I've been told the Firefox version of the extension only works for macOS, not sure how correct this is).

foolfoolz 2y ago

i have used many password managers over the years and am now 100% only on icloud. it isn’t the best (i would love custom attributes), but it’s the best to sync it to my icloud account if they could do this on windows i would be very happy

riscy 2y ago
There is iCloud for Windows: https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/what-is-icloud-for-windows-icwd3c1cca5e/icloud https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/what-is-iclou...

great_psy 2y ago

Does this lower the protection iCloud offers ? Currently you need to use biometric or password to access your keys. If you use the extension will it make a copy of the passwords locally, or does it still require biometric on every password access ? Also would be nice to have logs and see exactly which passwords re being retrieved by the add on. I know it’s apple made but still feels like an extra vector.

talldayo 2y ago
I don't know if it's possible for iCloud's security to go any lower: https://www.xda-developers.com/icloud-windows-photos-from-strangers/ https://www.xda-developers.com/icloud-windows-photos-from-st...
- DrBenCarson 2y ago
  There is absolutely no detail or evidence provided in that article that. Literally just “some people are saying”
clemiclemen 2y ago
Biometric or password is necessary for every access (which may be an inconvenience for some). Basically, the addon communicates with a native application on the OS (the iCloud application on Windows or the password application on macOS) so there is nothing stored in Firefox.

Bondi_Blue 2y ago

Since this lacks support for Firefox on Linux, using the built-in password manager with a Firefox account still feels like the easiest cross-platform solution.

setopt 2y ago
If you by “cross platform” also want iPhone support, 1Password is pretty great.
- samtheDamned 2y ago
  Firefox passwords work pretty well on iphone for me

ksec 2y ago

I guess I can finally move off Safari. The only thing holding me back was the password / iCloud Keychain integration. Webkit as an Engine may have improved a lot. As evidence with Orion using the same webkit is simply a much better browser. Safari for whatever reason simply hasn't caught on. Compared to all the improvement Chrome and Firefox has had over the years.