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A suppressor requires a federal tax stamp and (at least as of a few years ago) submission of fingerprints to the atf. So is certainly not as easy as some state

A suppressor requires a federal tax stamp and (at least as of a few years ago) submission of fingerprints to the atf. So is certainly not as easy as some states requirements for firearms.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
There is what the law says, and what people are physically cable of. I am being realistic, but you are free to challenge that realism with paperwork that can be ignored by folks who would seek out the hardware mentioned. There are laws against murder, how did that go today? I am making observations of an operating environment, and don't hold strong opinions on gun rights and similar. More, "What am I dealing with as someone who has to live here?"
- kasey_junk 2y ago
  Your argument started by talking about loose laws for firearm purchases. Not about being “physically capable” of. It then transitioned directly to talking about suppressor availability. I think it’s reasonable to point out that they are different legal regimes if only for other people confused by your abrupt and silent transition away from talking about laws.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Fair points, I simply don't (subjectively, imho, ymmv) believe it is that hard, legally or illegally, to acquire or possess firearms and accessories for them in most US jurisdictions. "The purpose of the system is what it does" sort of thing. Appreciate the discussion! "Don't break the law" PSA.
    - kasey_junk 2y ago
      I spend _a lot_ of my life interacting with firearms, gun culture and accessories. I do so in Illinois where suppressors are illegal and I’ve never seen one here. Indiana is a bike ride away and has some of the loosest gun laws in America. I shoot suppressed there all the time. I believe that manufactured suppressors actually are hard to get in the US in a way that is untraceable to the original purchaser, which makes them hard to get in illegal jurisdictions. Guns are much more broadly sold and less restricted so I agree that they tend to be very available.

A suppressor requires a federal tax stamp and (at least as of a few years ago) submission of fingerprints to the atf. So is certainly not as easy as some states requirements for firearms.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

There is what the law says, and what people are physically cable of. I am being realistic, but you are free to challenge that realism with paperwork that can be ignored by folks who would seek out the hardware mentioned. There are laws against murder, how did that go today? I am making observations of an operating environment, and don't hold strong opinions on gun rights and similar. More, "What am I dealing with as someone who has to live here?"

kasey_junk 2y ago
Your argument started by talking about loose laws for firearm purchases. Not about being “physically capable” of. It then transitioned directly to talking about suppressor availability. I think it’s reasonable to point out that they are different legal regimes if only for other people confused by your abrupt and silent transition away from talking about laws.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Fair points, I simply don't (subjectively, imho, ymmv) believe it is that hard, legally or illegally, to acquire or possess firearms and accessories for them in most US jurisdictions. "The purpose of the system is what it does" sort of thing. Appreciate the discussion! "Don't break the law" PSA.
  - kasey_junk 2y ago
    I spend _a lot_ of my life interacting with firearms, gun culture and accessories. I do so in Illinois where suppressors are illegal and I’ve never seen one here. Indiana is a bike ride away and has some of the loosest gun laws in America. I shoot suppressed there all the time. I believe that manufactured suppressors actually are hard to get in the US in a way that is untraceable to the original purchaser, which makes them hard to get in illegal jurisdictions. Guns are much more broadly sold and less restricted so I agree that they tend to be very available.