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by jredwards 2y ago

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oceanplexian 2y ago
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- yyuugg 2y ago
  This CEO, in particular, has almost certainly taken actions that resulted in preventable suffering and death. To some degree, that's the nature of running health insurance companies, but if he put profits ahead of patient outcomes, I think we could have a very reasonable discussion on the morality of letting people die at scale vs murder.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
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    - behringer 2y ago
      Some people are more guilty than others. This CEO may have committed more murders than that of kings of past centuries.
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        joshmanders 2y ago
        You make it sound like "refusing to help" was in the context of a random person begging for help to a stranger. It's more "hey, pay me a percentage of your wages and when you need help with medical bills, we will help you..." then denying the help.
        s1artibartfast 2y ago
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        Dylan16807 2y ago
        It's supposed to be a pretty blank check for critical bills, and this company does a bad job of fulfilling that. > You can always decline the health insurance and pay out of pocket if you think it is a bad deal. Ha. You could make this same argument about literal scam insurance that denies almost everything once your claims go above your payments. That's not a reasonable defense.
  - dboreham 2y ago
    The CEO has bosses, and was presumably doing what they wanted him to do.
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- jredwards 2y ago
  TV pundits are compensated based on their ability to keep audiences engaged. The people who decide that anger-based engagement is acceptable are, like Brian Thompson, executives. I don't think any of them deserve to be murdered, but the pundits are an odd place to place blame. Guns are inanimate objects and cannot be ascribed blame. Gunmen and lawmakers can.
- mostlysimilar 2y ago
  What planet do you live on? Are YOU getting your information and worldview from "TV pundits"? Corporate greed is a race to the bottom and CEOs are the avatars of that greed. Nobody needs a pundit to tell them that, they're experiencing it first hand for themselves, and you're playing a losing game defending them. You will never convince a man who struggles to pay rent and buy food that a CEO deserves millions of dollars. You will never convince a woman that she deserves to be in thousands of dollars of healthcare debt so that the CEO can buy extra houses and cars. Human nature will never accept this, no matter how much you wish your libertarian philosophizing about the world was representative of reality. Corporations and billionaires continue to gain power and working class people are getting exploited more and more. There's a breaking point and we're racing towards it fast.
  - joshmanders 2y ago
    The wealth gap is higher now than it was during the French Revolution, if anyone was interested in "history repeating itself" insights into the future.
dang 2y ago
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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oceanplexian 2y ago

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yyuugg 2y ago
This CEO, in particular, has almost certainly taken actions that resulted in preventable suffering and death. To some degree, that's the nature of running health insurance companies, but if he put profits ahead of patient outcomes, I think we could have a very reasonable discussion on the morality of letting people die at scale vs murder.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
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  - behringer 2y ago
    Some people are more guilty than others. This CEO may have committed more murders than that of kings of past centuries.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
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      - joshmanders 2y ago
        You make it sound like "refusing to help" was in the context of a random person begging for help to a stranger. It's more "hey, pay me a percentage of your wages and when you need help with medical bills, we will help you..." then denying the help.
        s1artibartfast 2y ago
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        Dylan16807 2y ago
        It's supposed to be a pretty blank check for critical bills, and this company does a bad job of fulfilling that. > You can always decline the health insurance and pay out of pocket if you think it is a bad deal. Ha. You could make this same argument about literal scam insurance that denies almost everything once your claims go above your payments. That's not a reasonable defense.
- dboreham 2y ago
  The CEO has bosses, and was presumably doing what they wanted him to do.
  - yyuugg 2y ago
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jredwards 2y ago
TV pundits are compensated based on their ability to keep audiences engaged. The people who decide that anger-based engagement is acceptable are, like Brian Thompson, executives. I don't think any of them deserve to be murdered, but the pundits are an odd place to place blame. Guns are inanimate objects and cannot be ascribed blame. Gunmen and lawmakers can.
mostlysimilar 2y ago
What planet do you live on? Are YOU getting your information and worldview from "TV pundits"? Corporate greed is a race to the bottom and CEOs are the avatars of that greed. Nobody needs a pundit to tell them that, they're experiencing it first hand for themselves, and you're playing a losing game defending them. You will never convince a man who struggles to pay rent and buy food that a CEO deserves millions of dollars. You will never convince a woman that she deserves to be in thousands of dollars of healthcare debt so that the CEO can buy extra houses and cars. Human nature will never accept this, no matter how much you wish your libertarian philosophizing about the world was representative of reality. Corporations and billionaires continue to gain power and working class people are getting exploited more and more. There's a breaking point and we're racing towards it fast.
- joshmanders 2y ago
  The wealth gap is higher now than it was during the French Revolution, if anyone was interested in "history repeating itself" insights into the future.

dang 2y ago

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html