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The leader of his own party reportedly called it unconstitutional and vowed to stop it, so I don't think his route to rigging a Parliamentary vote in his favour
by notahacker 2y ago
The leader of his own party reportedly called it unconstitutional and vowed to stop it, so I don't think his route to rigging a Parliamentary vote in his favour is an easy one.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> I don't think his route to rigging a Parliamentary vote in his favour is an easy one The classic move is to block the legislature from assembling while one gets around to dissolving it.
- MichaelZuo 2y agoDoes the legislature have to meet in that specific building for it to legally count as in session? Or can they meet anywhere they choose?
- notahacker 2y agoOh, I agree that via the use of force he can do what he likes, at least so long as that force is loyal to him and other forces aren't stronger. It's just harder to create a veneer of the constitutional necessity of such a move when your own highest profile political allies apparently condemn it and pledge to "stop it with the people" instead of queuing up to rubber stamp it and do "this is a small problem with criminal elements in one party which is all resolved now" briefings to confused foreigners wondering who the real government of South Korea is. Edit: reportedly the National Assembly has actually managed to hold a vote against it. Not sure how or what the constitutional quirks are, but that's probably going to make it considerably less likely the military unites behind the President...
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoThis is looking stupider by the minute. You can't half ass a coup d'etat.
- notahacker 2y agoYeah, feels like an act of desperation rather than a cunning plan. Didn't even get his own party on side, never mind influential foreign figures to recognise him as the legitimate leader, and it looks like troops who responded to his orders to attend Parliament didn't exactly follow them to the letter. Unanimous vote as well, so if anything it was any support he might have had in Parliament that was unable or unwilling to turn up.
- rightbyte 2y agoThe failed coup in Turkey comes to mind. It was a really strange one.
- sidewndr46 2y agoI thought the most recent coup in Turkey was actually a facade for the existing government to consolidate power? My understanding was that the ruling party just declared a coup took place then used that to round up a bunch of people
- marcosdumay 2y agoThe list of countries with half-asses coup d'etat recently is growing very fast. As a Brazilian, well, Bolsonaro is all over the news right now. Peru has had one recently too (it lasted for 6 hours or so). Going North, the US famously had one just some 4 years ago.
- CamperBob2 2y agoYeah, you launch a half-assed coup d'etat, and the next thing you know you get arres-... er, re-elected legitimately.
- shiroiushi 2y agoOnly in America.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
- mananaysiempre 2y agoThe standard constitutional remedy is to have martial law automatically expire after a few days (without being able to be imposed afterwards for a while, etc.) unless the parliament votes to confirm it. But apparently South Korea doesn’t have anything like that.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> standard constitutional remedy is to have martial law automatically expire after a few days (without being able to be imposed afterwards for a while, etc.) unless the parliament votes to confirm it This is in practice useless. The time for action is while the usurper is conslidating power. After a few days, they've either won or lost.
- jajko 2y agoYeah, as russia has shown any treaties all the way up to constitutions are only worth something if all power parties agree to respect them. Otherwise just a wishful thinking or food for academic discussions.
- limit499karma 2y agoJust Russia?