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Repeating what I said in the other thread -- unless Apple is open to release Pixelmator on Windows and/or the web, it's not going to compete with Adobe CC. ok,

by n144q 2y ago

Repeating what I said in the other thread -- unless Apple is open to release Pixelmator on Windows and/or the web, it's not going to compete with Adobe CC. ok, maybe the users that exclusively work on Mac. But that's nowhere a replacement for Adobe CC.

MBCook 2y ago
Does that matter? We already know Apple doesn’t care about the Windows market, they could’ve made all sorts of moves over the last 20 years if they did. It also seems very unlikely they care about the high-end professional market. The kind of people who are really in with Adobe. But they have a ton of Prosumer customers they could make happy. I know a number of people personally who would like to use Adobe tools but can’t afford the subscriptions. Being able to buy a smaller Apple product, or maybe pay a few dollars a month, to get a good product that covers their needs would probably make them quite happy. And anything that makes the Mac more sticky to current customers (or new customers) is a good investment for Apple. Every person they can lure away from Creative Cloud or prevent from ever starting with it is someone who doesn’t have an easy path to move to Windows without changing software.
pier25 2y ago
It's not a replacement for the whole suite but probably the majority of Adobe users are on Macs these days.
- kyriakos 2y ago
  That's wrong actually. Probably only Adobe knows but from personal experience most photographers I know use Windows. They almost all edit on desktop, they laptops only on location for preview. Nvidia GPUs also work well with Lightroom enhance and denoise features which run locally.
  - pier25 2y ago
    It's anecdotal but I'm a hobbyist photographer and all the photographers I know IRL use Macs. All the designers I know use Macs. Video editing and motion graphics is the area where I see people using Windows but it's still probably 50/50. In the pro world, from my anecdotal perspective, I'd say Windows is still more popular in game dev and 3d stuff which is outside of Adobe's scope.

by n144q 2y ago

MBCook 2y ago

Does that matter? We already know Apple doesn’t care about the Windows market, they could’ve made all sorts of moves over the last 20 years if they did. It also seems very unlikely they care about the high-end professional market. The kind of people who are really in with Adobe. But they have a ton of Prosumer customers they could make happy. I know a number of people personally who would like to use Adobe tools but can’t afford the subscriptions. Being able to buy a smaller Apple product, or maybe pay a few dollars a month, to get a good product that covers their needs would probably make them quite happy. And anything that makes the Mac more sticky to current customers (or new customers) is a good investment for Apple. Every person they can lure away from Creative Cloud or prevent from ever starting with it is someone who doesn’t have an easy path to move to Windows without changing software.

pier25 2y ago

It's not a replacement for the whole suite but probably the majority of Adobe users are on Macs these days.

kyriakos 2y ago
That's wrong actually. Probably only Adobe knows but from personal experience most photographers I know use Windows. They almost all edit on desktop, they laptops only on location for preview. Nvidia GPUs also work well with Lightroom enhance and denoise features which run locally.
- pier25 2y ago
  It's anecdotal but I'm a hobbyist photographer and all the photographers I know IRL use Macs. All the designers I know use Macs. Video editing and motion graphics is the area where I see people using Windows but it's still probably 50/50. In the pro world, from my anecdotal perspective, I'd say Windows is still more popular in game dev and 3d stuff which is outside of Adobe's scope.