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Jay was involved in the early days of Zcash, which makes me much more confident that BlueSky will be a place that cares about user privacy.
by matthewdgreen 2y ago
Jay was involved in the early days of Zcash, which makes me much more confident that BlueSky will be a place that cares about user privacy.
- Culonavirus 2y agoBeing banned is some of the best user privacy around. Can't beat that.
- ASalazarMX 2y agoYou'll always have X, Mr. Culonavirus.
- Fidelix 2y ago[flagged]
- sumeno 2y agoAnd what did you do to get banned? Be specific
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- urbanredeemer 2y ago[flagged]
- concerndc1tizen 2y agoNot true. Counter-mainstream arguments are immediately flagged (often within a minute), likely by third-party bots detecting undesirable comments.
- urbanredeemer 2y agoYou are sadly all too correct. At least the process here is less formalized and expected than on Bluesky.
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y agoWhich "Counter-mainstream arguments" ? Be specific
- urbanredeemer 2y ago[flagged]
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago[flagged]
- urbanredeemer 2y ago[flagged]
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y agoConsidered? Sure. Rejected, also yes. Most importantly, because having to fend off obnoxious assholes and sealions is not a desirable property of a social space. In no way is adding that an improvement. If I wanted more of that, I'd stay at work where at least I get paid to do the work. This is a lesson that Bluesky has learned from the ruins of Twitter. And secondarily, because your proposition is clearly neither "earnest", "unbiased" nor "honest" and the invitation to "consider" it as if for the first time is laughable. You might need people to annoy, but they don't need you. You protest too much.
- urbanredeemer 2y ago[flagged]
- whimsicalism 2y ago[flagged]
- sumeno 2y agoThen the user should be able to post exactly what they posted to get banned without fear
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- UltraSane 2y agoYour username is pretty sus.
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- throwbigdata 2y agoBut not mid?
- DonHopkins 2y agoSounds like the door hit you on the way out. https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
- ecshafer 2y agoThis xkcd comic makes the mistake of conflating the right to free speech and the 1st ammendment. The 1st ammendment exists to protect the right of free speech from the government, but the right is god given.
- kstrauser 2y agoSo is the right not to hear someone. Say anything you want in your own house, but if you spout vileness in my living room, I’m tossing you out the front door.
- ngetchell 2y agoWhy are these companies forced to carry your speeches? I feel like the XKCD perfectly reflects the free speech arguments I see online.
- dragonwriter 2y agoWhoever you think gave you the right to feee speech, it cannot extend to forcing others to relay your speech or THEY don't have the right to free speech.
- tbrownaw 2y agoThat's the problem with pretending it's merely a legalistic right rather than a general principle. If a big chunk of your society make a habit of censuring people for disliked speech, organizations that are in the business of relaying speech make a habit of dropping customers over disliked speech, etc? Then your society is not practicing the principle of freedom of speech.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
- insane_dreamer 2y agoYou can always join another PDS or host your own, and still be on Bluesky. So not really banned in the same way as being banned from Twitter.
- le-mark 2y agoThe weakness in AT seems to be the relay servers. Data/posts may be edited or deleted on a PDS, but once published what is the mechanism to alter or delete in clients/relays downstream? Also what’s the mechanism to prevent AT from turning into a firehouse of usenet bot spam?
- evbogue 2y ago> Allowing edits and arbitrary insertions also means you could easily pretend you posted something earlier than you did, or edit an earlier post to say something else [1] [1] https://github.com/arcalinea/smor-serve https://github.com/arcalinea/smor-serve
- chc4 2y agoWhat does that even mean? Relays not being able to arbitrarily edit posts is by design, and why PDS updates like posts are signed by their authors. That's a strength, not a weakness. The mechanism for spam filtering is the same as any other network. You can drop posts from low-trust PDSes, or use Bluesky's existing labeling system to apply advisory "spam likely" labels to accounts or posts that some heuristic decides are spam. This can be done in a composable way with their algorithmic feed aggregator and labels.
- renewedrebecca 2y agoThis is also a problem with ActivityPub. The 'delete' command is basically a suggestion.
- Zak 2y agoI'm not sure I would describe that as a problem, just something people using federated networks should be aware of. It is inherent to any system that sends messages to a bunch of other peoples' computers unless it implements some sort of DRM, which is effectively incompatible with open source software.
- diggan 2y ago> One person's bug is another person's feature
- ppp999 2y agoZcash makes me scared.... Much more inspired by monero