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NASA aircraft uncover Cold War nuclear missile tunnels under Greenland ice sheet
- Woshiwuja 2y ago[dead]
- rurban 2y agoThis is featured prominently in the great movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_(film) with Morena Baccarin, though they filmed the entrance in Iceland, not near Thule. https://maps.app.goo.gl/vxknuDCxRSGtJ4j88 https://maps.app.goo.gl/vxknuDCxRSGtJ4j88
- unwind 2y agoWait what, a tunnel system in Greenland has an entrance in Iceland?
- krisoft 2y agoNo. In the in-movie fiction both the tunnel and the entrance was in Greenland. But in reality they were shooting the entrance scenes somewhere else. In Iceland in this case. This happens quite frequently in movies. Toronto or Budapest frequently stands in to all kind of other cities for production reasons. (A subway escalator from Budapest even shows up on the space station of Alien: Romulus)
- unwind 2y agoAh, I completely mis-read the GP. Thanks.
- alexey-salmin 2y agoToo bad I already cracked up and upvoted the perceived joke (unless your second comment digs even deeper into layers of irony)
- OJFord 2y agoToronto skyline is often apparent in 'New York' scenes, in many productions, Suits for example. It's like they think only NYC will be recognisable (formerly the twin towers, ESB, statue of liberty, etc.) so any view of Toronto can just sub in for an anonymous bit of NYC. (Except perhaps the CN tower, haven't seen anything that stupid!)
- bregma 2y agoThis was the source of humour in "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" S2E3 where Kirk stands in Sankofa Square in front of a large sign emblazoned "Toronto Eaton Centre" and asks "Are we in New York City?"
- morkalork 2y agoLots of film production goes on in Toronto, I especially love how Roy Thompson Hall always shows up in anything vaguely sci-fi. Vaught headquarters in The Boys, U.N. headquarters in The Expanse, it was even in the background of a few scenes of The Handmaid's Tale.
- Someone 2y ago> It's like they think only NYC will be recognisable Probably more because they look at how much dollars and hassle it would cost to film in NY, compared to the (relatively) cheaper Toronto.
- blitzar 2y agoMost likely production tax credits. "The Ontario Film & Television Tax Credit is a 35% refundable tax credit on Ontario labour for film and television productions by Ontario-based Canadian controlled companies for productions shot in Toronto, Ontario."
- walrus01 2y agoSame general reason why a lot of film/tv production is done in the state of GA now, which decided to compete with California, Vancouver and Toronto to attract productions.
- erk__ 2y agoAlso in the end of "A Danish Girl" the scene contains mountains and large hills, which is a bit funny because those don't exist in Denmark at all.
- boomboomsubban 2y agoYou're right, but in searching for the highest peak I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hills_and_mountains_in_Denmark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hills_and_mountains_in... which is amusing.
- UltraSane 2y agoLike the big mountain visible in so many parts of Rumble in the Bronx
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y agoI've watched that, and don't think it's great. I've also watched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_(film) , and in the end titles you can see her pointing a telescope ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newtonian_telescope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newtonian_telescope ) with the backside into the sky. WTFF!? That's like the stock pictures for electronics assembly snd repair, where you can see people holding a soldering iron at the hot tip.
- walrus01 2y agototal clickbait title, to the best of my knowledge ZERO actual missiles were ever based at camp century, and the whole rest of the ridiculous concept of using the greenland ice cap to base missiles was obsoleted in the 1960s by rapid advances in land based and submarine ICBMs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Century
- pandemic_region 2y agoI found the title to be correct, reflecting what was discovered i.e. missile "tunnels". I have zero clue about any of this, so it was an interesting read. And yes, a ridiculous idea but that's probably what the Egyptians also thought when the plans to build a pyramid were unveiled ;-)
- walrus01 2y agoThere were no missiles, erectors, launchers, silo doors, hatches, warheads, fueling systems or solid rockets, launch control systems. Therefore not "nuclear missile tunnels". The whole concept was shelved once they learned what a pain in the ass it would be to build and maintain such a base, and the advances in range and reliability of regular icbms became obvious. Camp century was built around the same time as the DEW line and other north warning system radars throughout Greenland and northern Canada, which had a more obvious use and necessity.
- mrweasel 2y agoI think the extend of the US nuclear weapons program for Greenland was limited to bombers stationed in Thule. There is a Danish book written about the whole thing, including the accidents. In it there is a paragraph or two about the US government approaching the Danish government, to hear if they would be interested in a briefing about the activities regarding nuclear weapons stationed in Greenland. The answer given to the US was "Absolutely not!". The weapons where not suppose to be there, and the Danish government basically took a "don't ask, don't tell" approach to the whole thing. Still the consensus is that Project Iceworm never really amounted to anything. The shifting ice and snow cover would have made the whole thing a nightmare to maintain. There is a nuclear bomb somewhere under the ice near Thule, which was never recovered after the crash of a B-52.
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- tokai 2y ago>U.S. government [...] will "work with the Danish government and the Greenland authorities to settle questions of mutual security" In the end they did no such thing.
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- lostlogin 2y agoThe Wikipedia entry is interesting. Living there sounds nasty. ‘The sewage sump was 150 feet (46 m) from the nearest building and initially, was not vented. As a result, the odor of sewage became almost unbearable in the nearest quarters after the first year of operation. Subsequent venting of the sump reduced the odor, but did not eliminate the fundamental condition.’ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Century https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Century
- cesaref 2y agoWell it's good to know that once they abandoned the project, they cleared the site and left it how it was before they turned up. Oh wait, no, actually they left it with all the waste still there, under the assumption that it would be entombed 'forever' by the perpetual snowfall. Who would have thought it.
- wffurr 2y ago1960s US military is the gift that keeps on giving. For millions of years.
- InDubioProRubio 2y agoBe asbestos as you can be
- lazide 2y agoHey, at least they didn’t leave the reactor!
- acidburnNSA 2y agoNuclear engineer/amateur reactor historian here. Camp Century found here was famously powered by a small Army nuclear reactor called PM-2A. There's a really great documentary about it from the 1960s here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=28NYczAuXl4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=28NYczAuXl4
- rthnbgrredf 2y agoCorrect me if I'm wrong, but wasn’t there a similar reactor on the other side of the globe, in Antarctica, around the same time?
- acidburnNSA 2y agoYou're correct. The one in Greenland was the PM-2A. The one in Antarctica was the PM-3A. List of these, with even more small Army microreactors, with videos for all here https://whatisnuclear.com/slides/reactor-history.html#/2/16 https://whatisnuclear.com/slides/reactor-history.html#/2/16!
- aaron695 2y ago[dead]