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Bluesky wont happen no matter how hard they push right now. Its not offering anything fundamentally different. It will pull from X but will stay niche.

autoexecbat 2y ago
Why not? These all come and go, it could be Twitter's time to go. MySpace became irrelevant, Facebook is near-irrelevant.
krapp 2y ago
It's clearly already "happening." Bluesky doesn't need to offer anything fundamentally different, just an experience that users consider better than the alternative. People aren't seeking novelty so much as an escape from the toxicity and algorithmically-driven vitriol of Twitter.
- obar1x 2y ago
  mastodont went nowhere... same here with this other runaway from X coz Trymp thing
  - krapp 2y ago
    Sure, Jan.
- GloomyBoots 2y ago
  Every time I've opened the bluesky homepage it's been highly political. Not even in the sense of "here's a topic I feel strongly about". It's just "fuck conservatives" over and over. At the same time, even the most mild conservative opinions result in a ban. That's not a platform that one goes to for an escape from toxicity. It's a platform that one goes to so that they can burn strawmen with like-minded toxic people without worrying about getting blowback for it.
  - krapp 2y ago
    >Every time I've opened the bluesky homepage it's been highly political. Not even in the sense of "here's a topic I feel strongly about". It's just "fuck conservatives" over and over. Odd. My homepage looks nothing like that. I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
    - GloomyBoots 2y ago
      I'm not signed in. Maybe that's why. Right now I opened the home page, paged down through the top 20 or so bloots or whatever they're called, and got: - An MSNBC video about fighting back against conservatives - A post celebrating that a "right-wing lawsuit" to review voter rolls failed - That BrooklynDad dude complaining about Trump supporters - A post comparing conservatives to the Empire from Star Wars - A post chastising White people for having opinions on some controversy involving Black celebrities A lot of whiny us-against-them rhetoric, but it's not toxic because they are conservatives. In between those, there are cat pictures, some shower thoughts type posts, landscape photos, and comics. This was a marked improvement over the page when I opened it yesterday.
  - daveed 2y ago
    I'm opening up my app right now, and I see none of this. Granted I'm a recent installer (this week), and all I've followed are tech/ml based lists. But it is a much quieter place than twitter. The major accounts from twitter are not on bluesky, but I don't care for vitriol or meme replies (all of which are much higher on twitter). That being said, twitter still has a lot of interesting people, who are the main reason to continue using the site.
  - latentcall 2y ago
    I see plenty of conservatives on Bluesky and they aren’t banned? However I have seen conservatives who act rudely get banned so maybe that’s what you mean? But my point stands I see conservative discussion on there near daily and it isn’t banned.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
- boringg 2y ago
  It isn't clearly happening - its having a minor bump. I don't care either way i just think the collective effort to push it wont pan out but please hype away.
verdverm 2y ago
Bluesky is fundamentally different. 1. It is built on an open protocol 2. User controls and choice, they decoupled {algo, app, data, moderation} and users decide which ones they use. Anyone can build any of these and offer them up without having to change social network. In short, they created a social media fabric with built in competition on the supplier side while removing the switching cost for users
nataliste 2y ago
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rsynnott 2y ago
I mean, it doesn’t have the pay-for-attention mechanism that Carface added to Twitter. That in itself is a huge difference.

autoexecbat 2y ago

Why not? These all come and go, it could be Twitter's time to go. MySpace became irrelevant, Facebook is near-irrelevant.

krapp 2y ago

It's clearly already "happening." Bluesky doesn't need to offer anything fundamentally different, just an experience that users consider better than the alternative. People aren't seeking novelty so much as an escape from the toxicity and algorithmically-driven vitriol of Twitter.

obar1x 2y ago
mastodont went nowhere... same here with this other runaway from X coz Trymp thing
- krapp 2y ago
  Sure, Jan.
GloomyBoots 2y ago
Every time I've opened the bluesky homepage it's been highly political. Not even in the sense of "here's a topic I feel strongly about". It's just "fuck conservatives" over and over. At the same time, even the most mild conservative opinions result in a ban. That's not a platform that one goes to for an escape from toxicity. It's a platform that one goes to so that they can burn strawmen with like-minded toxic people without worrying about getting blowback for it.
- krapp 2y ago
  >Every time I've opened the bluesky homepage it's been highly political. Not even in the sense of "here's a topic I feel strongly about". It's just "fuck conservatives" over and over. Odd. My homepage looks nothing like that. I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
  - GloomyBoots 2y ago
    I'm not signed in. Maybe that's why. Right now I opened the home page, paged down through the top 20 or so bloots or whatever they're called, and got: - An MSNBC video about fighting back against conservatives - A post celebrating that a "right-wing lawsuit" to review voter rolls failed - That BrooklynDad dude complaining about Trump supporters - A post comparing conservatives to the Empire from Star Wars - A post chastising White people for having opinions on some controversy involving Black celebrities A lot of whiny us-against-them rhetoric, but it's not toxic because they are conservatives. In between those, there are cat pictures, some shower thoughts type posts, landscape photos, and comics. This was a marked improvement over the page when I opened it yesterday.
- daveed 2y ago
  I'm opening up my app right now, and I see none of this. Granted I'm a recent installer (this week), and all I've followed are tech/ml based lists. But it is a much quieter place than twitter. The major accounts from twitter are not on bluesky, but I don't care for vitriol or meme replies (all of which are much higher on twitter). That being said, twitter still has a lot of interesting people, who are the main reason to continue using the site.
- latentcall 2y ago
  I see plenty of conservatives on Bluesky and they aren’t banned? However I have seen conservatives who act rudely get banned so maybe that’s what you mean? But my point stands I see conservative discussion on there near daily and it isn’t banned.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
boringg 2y ago
It isn't clearly happening - its having a minor bump. I don't care either way i just think the collective effort to push it wont pan out but please hype away.

verdverm 2y ago

Bluesky is fundamentally different. 1. It is built on an open protocol 2. User controls and choice, they decoupled {algo, app, data, moderation} and users decide which ones they use. Anyone can build any of these and offer them up without having to change social network. In short, they created a social media fabric with built in competition on the supplier side while removing the switching cost for users

nataliste 2y ago

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rsynnott 2y ago

I mean, it doesn’t have the pay-for-attention mechanism that Carface added to Twitter. That in itself is a huge difference.