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It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/

by _mlbt 2y ago

It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-musk-spacex-00183371 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m... It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.

Dylan16807 2y ago
> concerns that all SpaceX launches would be considered military activity, shielding the company from having to acquire its own permits, even if military payloads aren’t being carried. If that's accurate then the way they're holding it against him is making him follow the existing rules. But maybe that's a smokescreen? I'm unsure how to judge that situation. But for the topic article, if he's going to be inside the group of people that are cutting federal EV subsidies, I don't think he gets to complain about not getting EV subsidies.
- mquander 2y ago
  I think tax rates should be higher. So does that mean I should have to pay extra taxes by myself and the rates for everyone else should stay the same?
  - igetspam 2y ago
    Are you a billionaire?
- engineer_22 2y ago
  EV subsidies were intended to backstop the EV supply chain buildup. EV subsidies should be retired when EVs are economically viable on their own merits. We have had EV subsidies for 16 years. In my opinion 16 years is long enough for the experiment, and it is an appropriate time to discuss the usefulness of EV subsidies going forward.
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flapadoodle 2y ago
But...you're not, this is entirely normal politics now. DeSantis has been waging open war on Disney for years, Cruz has gone after everyone from Blackrock to Target for political reasons. The incoming administration has made no secret it intends to use any and every lever to hurt any opposition. At some point you need to stop pretending to be surprised by entirely quotidien events and accept this is in fact precisely who you are.
- _mlbt 2y ago
  Yes, those examples you gave are also disgusting, but do not make politically motivated actions against Elon Musk right.
  - flapadoodle 2y ago
    Is it right? That's endlessly debatable. But is it unusual, unexpected or 'not who we are'? No, that is clear and if anything this is at the mild end of recent weaponisation of political office against businesses.
  - chrsig 2y ago
    no, but they do make them normal.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - yyuugg 2y ago
    You've moved the goal post. You said "we're better than this". You got several instances where, clearly, we are not. Take the L here. Acknowledge we're not better than this and arguably never have been. Next time consider, "we should aspire to be better than this". And to be clear, I didn't vote Harris or Trump, both parties do this gross stuff.
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  There will also be exceptions for any general principle. Remember, Americans still allow TikTok despite mainland China banning almost every major US social network. Citing a few events and calling them "quotidien" doesn't make it so. E.g, Twitter/X is still flourishing in the US while regulators in the EU frequently threaten it.

by _mlbt 2y ago

Dylan16807 2y ago

> concerns that all SpaceX launches would be considered military activity, shielding the company from having to acquire its own permits, even if military payloads aren’t being carried. If that's accurate then the way they're holding it against him is making him follow the existing rules. But maybe that's a smokescreen? I'm unsure how to judge that situation. But for the topic article, if he's going to be inside the group of people that are cutting federal EV subsidies, I don't think he gets to complain about not getting EV subsidies.

mquander 2y ago
I think tax rates should be higher. So does that mean I should have to pay extra taxes by myself and the rates for everyone else should stay the same?
- igetspam 2y ago
  Are you a billionaire?
engineer_22 2y ago
EV subsidies were intended to backstop the EV supply chain buildup. EV subsidies should be retired when EVs are economically viable on their own merits. We have had EV subsidies for 16 years. In my opinion 16 years is long enough for the experiment, and it is an appropriate time to discuss the usefulness of EV subsidies going forward.

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flapadoodle 2y ago

But...you're not, this is entirely normal politics now. DeSantis has been waging open war on Disney for years, Cruz has gone after everyone from Blackrock to Target for political reasons. The incoming administration has made no secret it intends to use any and every lever to hurt any opposition. At some point you need to stop pretending to be surprised by entirely quotidien events and accept this is in fact precisely who you are.

_mlbt 2y ago
Yes, those examples you gave are also disgusting, but do not make politically motivated actions against Elon Musk right.
- flapadoodle 2y ago
  Is it right? That's endlessly debatable. But is it unusual, unexpected or 'not who we are'? No, that is clear and if anything this is at the mild end of recent weaponisation of political office against businesses.
- chrsig 2y ago
  no, but they do make them normal.
- deleted 2y ago
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- yyuugg 2y ago
  You've moved the goal post. You said "we're better than this". You got several instances where, clearly, we are not. Take the L here. Acknowledge we're not better than this and arguably never have been. Next time consider, "we should aspire to be better than this". And to be clear, I didn't vote Harris or Trump, both parties do this gross stuff.
cscurmudgeon 2y ago
There will also be exceptions for any general principle. Remember, Americans still allow TikTok despite mainland China banning almost every major US social network. Citing a few events and calling them "quotidien" doesn't make it so. E.g, Twitter/X is still flourishing in the US while regulators in the EU frequently threaten it.