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Here you go: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/15-days-slow-spread/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/15-days-slow-s... https://trumpw

Here you go: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/15-days-slow-spread/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/15-days-slow-s... https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-presidents-coronavirus-task-force/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/st... https://www.npr.org/2020/03/30/822448199/how-15-days-became-45-trump-extends-guidelines-to-slow-coronavirus https://www.npr.org/2020/03/30/822448199/how-15-days-became-... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/covid-a-year-later-trumps-15-days-to-slow-the-spread-pledge-shows-how-little-we-knew.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/covid-a-year-later-trumps-15... In no uncertain terms, your obtuse dismissal of history that most of us here literally witnessed with our own eyes is appalling. Everyone in a position of power, including Trump and Fauci, fucked up because everyone wanted to use covid for political ends. Noone is going to trust the government, Trump or otherwise, the next time and for good reason.

robertoandred 2y ago
What political ends?
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  For Trump it was chiefly about winning re-election in the face of absolute adversity. For everyone else, it was namely about getting rid of Trump but also attempting to normalize the regulation of speech and assembly, commerce, and healthcare and expanding the powers of the Executive Branch at both Federal and State levels to limits unprecedented at the time. Covid should not have been politicized, regardless where you are on the spectrum.
  - acdha 2y ago
    > For everyone else, it was namely about getting rid of Trump but also attempting to normalize the regulation of speech and assembly, commerce, and healthcare and expanding the powers of the Executive Branch at both Federal and State levels to limits unprecedented at the time. This is an enormous claim to toss out without support. You’d need to start by establishing what you’re even referring to since, for example, speech was not regulated and it’s unclear why people who wanted to get rid of Trump would have given him “unprecedented” power so you’d want to explain that theory a bit more.
acdha 2y ago
Those undercut the claim, not support it: there’s no promise that it’ll be over, only a request to slow the rate of spread. Moreover, that was not a promise from medical experts but from a presidential candidate running for re-election arguing that the economy was doing so well that it made up for the other problems with his administration.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  >that was not a promise from medical experts What part of Fauci (and many others) being a member of the Coronavirus Task Force do you not understand?
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    The part where Fauci didn’t say the things you claim he said?
  - acdha 2y ago
    First, the task force never said what you’re claiming – slowing the rate of growth is not the same as over – but also, surely you’re not under the impression that he somehow outranked the president on that task force?
kadoban 2y ago
> In no uncertain terms, your obtuse dismissal of history that most of us here literally witnessed with our own eyes is appalling. And yet your links do not contain the word "booster" anywhere in the text (in the npr one the word appears in headlines it wants me to read next, but they're _way_ later in timeline as I expected). So, what is appalling about what I said then?

robertoandred 2y ago

What political ends?

Dalewyn 2y ago
For Trump it was chiefly about winning re-election in the face of absolute adversity. For everyone else, it was namely about getting rid of Trump but also attempting to normalize the regulation of speech and assembly, commerce, and healthcare and expanding the powers of the Executive Branch at both Federal and State levels to limits unprecedented at the time. Covid should not have been politicized, regardless where you are on the spectrum.
- acdha 2y ago
  > For everyone else, it was namely about getting rid of Trump but also attempting to normalize the regulation of speech and assembly, commerce, and healthcare and expanding the powers of the Executive Branch at both Federal and State levels to limits unprecedented at the time. This is an enormous claim to toss out without support. You’d need to start by establishing what you’re even referring to since, for example, speech was not regulated and it’s unclear why people who wanted to get rid of Trump would have given him “unprecedented” power so you’d want to explain that theory a bit more.

acdha 2y ago

Those undercut the claim, not support it: there’s no promise that it’ll be over, only a request to slow the rate of spread. Moreover, that was not a promise from medical experts but from a presidential candidate running for re-election arguing that the economy was doing so well that it made up for the other problems with his administration.

Dalewyn 2y ago
>that was not a promise from medical experts What part of Fauci (and many others) being a member of the Coronavirus Task Force do you not understand?
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  The part where Fauci didn’t say the things you claim he said?
- acdha 2y ago
  First, the task force never said what you’re claiming – slowing the rate of growth is not the same as over – but also, surely you’re not under the impression that he somehow outranked the president on that task force?

kadoban 2y ago

> In no uncertain terms, your obtuse dismissal of history that most of us here literally witnessed with our own eyes is appalling. And yet your links do not contain the word "booster" anywhere in the text (in the npr one the word appears in headlines it wants me to read next, but they're _way_ later in timeline as I expected). So, what is appalling about what I said then?