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Absolutely worse if RFK Jr.'s nomination makes it through Congress. I know career staff can take their time making changes the CDC head wants, but they can only

Absolutely worse if RFK Jr.'s nomination makes it through Congress. I know career staff can take their time making changes the CDC head wants, but they can only be so slow in the face of pressure from the agency director and president.

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- timr 2y ago
  Marty Makary is neither anti-vaccine nor a conspiracy theorist. He's a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins, author of the paper that turned into the "checklist manifesto", as well as multiple NY Times best-selling books on medicine. Please stop.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    None of those are exclusive of being anti-vaccine or a conspiracy theorist. But agreed he doesn’t seem to be all that bad. Best of luck to him surrounded by that team of experts!
    - timr 2y ago
      Except he plainly isn't anti-vaccine, nor a conspiracy theorist. It's a lazy slur, and it's discouraging to see people repeating it. He was against a Covid vaccine mandate, which is not "anti-vaccine", except in the heads of people who have replaced logic and scientific knowledge with politics.
      - llamaimperative 2y ago
        I don’t know enough about him to say, my only comment was that “he is a NYT best-seller, invented the checklist manifesto” etc aren’t rebuttals. This comment you made is much more substantial.
  - acdha 2y ago
    He’s a contrarian, not a conspiracy theorist, but that led him astray when he became the goto guy for reporters looking for a real doctor (well, surgeon) to represent the anti-vaccine mandate side. That still puts him ahead of the solid anti-vax side but suggests that he’s likely to make the same choice again in the future – it’s addictive to think you’re on to something everyone else missed – and I would imagine it’s especially a risk if that means getting on the bad side of a famously vindictive boss.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    Oz was a professor at the columbia university medical school until like 2015 and he was by all accounts an incredible cardiac surgeon before swerving into being a professional crackpot. He's still a crackpot though, and for quite a long time was both a crackpot and a professor at a prestigious medical school.
    - timr 2y ago
      I'm not sure how "was a professor at Columbia" is supposed to be a rebuttal, and "crackpot" is just a slur. He's currently a professor at Johns Hopkins, and in fact, right now has a book at #10 on the New York Times best seller list [1]. He's a completely mainstream doctor who happens to (I assume) disagree with you about something. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2024/10/06/hardcover-nonfiction/ https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2024/10/06/hardco...
      - giraffe_lady 2y ago
        I was talking about Mehmet Öz. I was pointing out that affiliation with a mainstream medical institution appears to be compatible with crackpot beliefs. I don't know anything or have an opinion about Makary but Öz is a crackpot. Crackpot is a slur and I am using it intentionally.
maskzoff 2y ago
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timr 2y ago
Marty Makary is neither anti-vaccine nor a conspiracy theorist. He's a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins, author of the paper that turned into the "checklist manifesto", as well as multiple NY Times best-selling books on medicine. Please stop.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  None of those are exclusive of being anti-vaccine or a conspiracy theorist. But agreed he doesn’t seem to be all that bad. Best of luck to him surrounded by that team of experts!
  - timr 2y ago
    Except he plainly isn't anti-vaccine, nor a conspiracy theorist. It's a lazy slur, and it's discouraging to see people repeating it. He was against a Covid vaccine mandate, which is not "anti-vaccine", except in the heads of people who have replaced logic and scientific knowledge with politics.
    - llamaimperative 2y ago
      I don’t know enough about him to say, my only comment was that “he is a NYT best-seller, invented the checklist manifesto” etc aren’t rebuttals. This comment you made is much more substantial.
- acdha 2y ago
  He’s a contrarian, not a conspiracy theorist, but that led him astray when he became the goto guy for reporters looking for a real doctor (well, surgeon) to represent the anti-vaccine mandate side. That still puts him ahead of the solid anti-vax side but suggests that he’s likely to make the same choice again in the future – it’s addictive to think you’re on to something everyone else missed – and I would imagine it’s especially a risk if that means getting on the bad side of a famously vindictive boss.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  Oz was a professor at the columbia university medical school until like 2015 and he was by all accounts an incredible cardiac surgeon before swerving into being a professional crackpot. He's still a crackpot though, and for quite a long time was both a crackpot and a professor at a prestigious medical school.
  - timr 2y ago
    I'm not sure how "was a professor at Columbia" is supposed to be a rebuttal, and "crackpot" is just a slur. He's currently a professor at Johns Hopkins, and in fact, right now has a book at #10 on the New York Times best seller list [1]. He's a completely mainstream doctor who happens to (I assume) disagree with you about something. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2024/10/06/hardcover-nonfiction/ https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2024/10/06/hardco...
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      I was talking about Mehmet Öz. I was pointing out that affiliation with a mainstream medical institution appears to be compatible with crackpot beliefs. I don't know anything or have an opinion about Makary but Öz is a crackpot. Crackpot is a slur and I am using it intentionally.

maskzoff 2y ago

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