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does anyone else think that trump is going to nix this thing as soon as he takes office?

by daft_pink 2y ago

duringmath 2y ago
We can hope, his DOJ might amend their demands or the judges he appoints will overturn it on appeal if needed.
Handy-Man 2y ago
Not really. He and his backers actually want this to happen to GOOG.
ocdtrekkie 2y ago
So it's hard to say, Trump hates Google, Gaetz hated Google, I assume any Trumpist (I guess it's Bondi now) thinks Google is "unfair to conservatives". So it's easy to imagine letting Google reap the penalties of the existing case being an easy choice for them. On the other hand, he's promised to remove Khan, Kanter, etc, and end antitrust enforcement. So someone may have to actively decide to continue as is, or change tack a bit. The third concern of course is that Trump is a crook. He might not like Google but I'm sure neither him nor Sundar would have any qualms with figuring out how to slide a billion dollars in Trump's pocket to make the case go away.
- xrd 2y ago
  Musk took over Twitter and then started xAI. Trump Social should announce they are going to be adding AI and resell Anthropic. They can take their 20% and everyone is happy.
- chucke1992 2y ago
  It also does not help that Google is often seen together with various left leaning initiatives - like Google is one of the big proponents. Plus there was some backlash on Twitter over Youtube hiding Joe Rogan video and so on.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
No. They’ll change the settlement terms, however, to probably include their priorities.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I hope not. An important part of encouraging innovation in tech is to take power away from the megacorps that will otherwise use their capital and distribution channels and illegitimate practices (like bundling) to control everything and take all the gains. These actions from Lina Khan, the DOJ, the EU commissions, etc are crucial to creating a fair landscape for competition.
- hobs 2y ago
  Trump took net neutrality off the table, he only wanted to punish big tech for perceived slights or not supporting him enough, he's famous for putting people with no knowledge of the problems or experience with them in power managing them. What exactly would be driving your hopes here?
  - lolinder 2y ago
    Maybe the fact that Trump's DOJ started this lawsuit, backed by the Republican Attorneys General for 11 states that Trump won this year? What exactly is driving you to think that he'd abort a mission that he and his allies started?
    - decremental 2y ago
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    - throw16180339 2y ago
      Everything else is for sale in his administration, so I don't see why this wouldn't be.
    - rurp 2y ago
      Well he started the drive to ban TikTok, but did a 180 after a single meeting with a billionaire who owns part of it. I have no idea what Trump's DOJ will do with this case; I doubt he knows or cares about the case himself. I won't be surprised either way they go with it.
    - hobs 2y ago
zeroonetwothree 2y ago
The case started under Trump so probably not
lolinder 2y ago
No. This case was launched by Trump's DOJ in 2020 [0], in conjunction with the Republican Attorneys General representing a bunch of states that Trump won handily this election. Trump's Attorney General Barr released a statement when they announced the lawsuit [1]: > Today, millions of Americans rely on the Internet and online platforms for their daily lives. For years, there have been broad, bipartisan concerns about business practices leading to massive concentrations of economic power in our digital economy. Hearing those concerns, I have made it a primary commitment of my tenure as Attorney General for the Department of Justice to examine whether technology markets have been deprived of free, fair, and open competition. This case has never has been a partisan issue. It was opened by a Republican DOJ and pushed through by a Democratic DOJ, and there's no reason to believe that the Republicans won't see through what they started. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2020) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2... [1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-announcement-civil-antitrust-lawsuit-filed-against-google https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-an...
- xvector 2y ago
  Illiterate people on both sides want to see technology destroyed.
- yamumsaho9292 2y ago
  [dead]
- kolinko 2y ago
  oh wow, TIL. I assumed Trump would be against any government control of Big Tech
  - mvdtnz 2y ago
    That's a weird thing to say. Trump has always been critical of big tech and favours breaking them up. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tech-factbox/factbox-trumps-twitter-thoughts-on-big-tech-idUSKCN1UJ2OO/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tech-factbox/fa... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/10/18659748/trump-cnbc-interview-big-tech https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/10/18659748/t...
xyst 2y ago
Google just needs to deposit a few million into an offshore account and this will disappear into the ether. Then administration will throw so much “anti woke” shit and the average American will forget about it.
nine_zeros 2y ago
> does anyone else think that trump is going to nix this thing as soon as he takes office? Depends on how much Google is willing to scratch Trump's back. Remember, Trump is a corrupt quid pro quo President. All he needs is something valuable in exchange for his corrupt powers.
tjpnz 2y ago
If Sundar flatters him enough.

does anyone else think that trump is going to nix this thing as soon as he takes office?

duringmath 2y ago

We can hope, his DOJ might amend their demands or the judges he appoints will overturn it on appeal if needed.

Handy-Man 2y ago

Not really. He and his backers actually want this to happen to GOOG.

ocdtrekkie 2y ago

So it's hard to say, Trump hates Google, Gaetz hated Google, I assume any Trumpist (I guess it's Bondi now) thinks Google is "unfair to conservatives". So it's easy to imagine letting Google reap the penalties of the existing case being an easy choice for them. On the other hand, he's promised to remove Khan, Kanter, etc, and end antitrust enforcement. So someone may have to actively decide to continue as is, or change tack a bit. The third concern of course is that Trump is a crook. He might not like Google but I'm sure neither him nor Sundar would have any qualms with figuring out how to slide a billion dollars in Trump's pocket to make the case go away.

xrd 2y ago
Musk took over Twitter and then started xAI. Trump Social should announce they are going to be adding AI and resell Anthropic. They can take their 20% and everyone is happy.
chucke1992 2y ago
It also does not help that Google is often seen together with various left leaning initiatives - like Google is one of the big proponents. Plus there was some backlash on Twitter over Youtube hiding Joe Rogan video and so on.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

No. They’ll change the settlement terms, however, to probably include their priorities.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

I hope not. An important part of encouraging innovation in tech is to take power away from the megacorps that will otherwise use their capital and distribution channels and illegitimate practices (like bundling) to control everything and take all the gains. These actions from Lina Khan, the DOJ, the EU commissions, etc are crucial to creating a fair landscape for competition.

hobs 2y ago
Trump took net neutrality off the table, he only wanted to punish big tech for perceived slights or not supporting him enough, he's famous for putting people with no knowledge of the problems or experience with them in power managing them. What exactly would be driving your hopes here?
- lolinder 2y ago
  Maybe the fact that Trump's DOJ started this lawsuit, backed by the Republican Attorneys General for 11 states that Trump won this year? What exactly is driving you to think that he'd abort a mission that he and his allies started?
  - decremental 2y ago
    [dead]
  - throw16180339 2y ago
    Everything else is for sale in his administration, so I don't see why this wouldn't be.
  - rurp 2y ago
    Well he started the drive to ban TikTok, but did a 180 after a single meeting with a billionaire who owns part of it. I have no idea what Trump's DOJ will do with this case; I doubt he knows or cares about the case himself. I won't be surprised either way they go with it.
  - hobs 2y ago

zeroonetwothree 2y ago

The case started under Trump so probably not

lolinder 2y ago

No. This case was launched by Trump's DOJ in 2020 [0], in conjunction with the Republican Attorneys General representing a bunch of states that Trump won handily this election. Trump's Attorney General Barr released a statement when they announced the lawsuit [1]: > Today, millions of Americans rely on the Internet and online platforms for their daily lives. For years, there have been broad, bipartisan concerns about business practices leading to massive concentrations of economic power in our digital economy. Hearing those concerns, I have made it a primary commitment of my tenure as Attorney General for the Department of Justice to examine whether technology markets have been deprived of free, fair, and open competition. This case has never has been a partisan issue. It was opened by a Republican DOJ and pushed through by a Democratic DOJ, and there's no reason to believe that the Republicans won't see through what they started. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2020) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2... [1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-announcement-civil-antitrust-lawsuit-filed-against-google https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-an...

xvector 2y ago
Illiterate people on both sides want to see technology destroyed.
yamumsaho9292 2y ago
[dead]
kolinko 2y ago
oh wow, TIL. I assumed Trump would be against any government control of Big Tech
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  That's a weird thing to say. Trump has always been critical of big tech and favours breaking them up. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tech-factbox/factbox-trumps-twitter-thoughts-on-big-tech-idUSKCN1UJ2OO/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tech-factbox/fa... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/10/18659748/trump-cnbc-interview-big-tech https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/10/18659748/t...

xyst 2y ago

Google just needs to deposit a few million into an offshore account and this will disappear into the ether. Then administration will throw so much “anti woke” shit and the average American will forget about it.

nine_zeros 2y ago

> does anyone else think that trump is going to nix this thing as soon as he takes office? Depends on how much Google is willing to scratch Trump's back. Remember, Trump is a corrupt quid pro quo President. All he needs is something valuable in exchange for his corrupt powers.

tjpnz 2y ago

If Sundar flatters him enough.