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What brutal censorship have you observed?
by nick_ 2y ago
What brutal censorship have you observed?
- okeuro49 2y agohttps://bsky.app/profile/realbabylonbee.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/realbabylonbee.bsky.social
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoIt looks like you can just click through the content warning.
- wulfstan 2y agoYou can also just turn it off globally by turning off the "Intolerance" setting on the Bluesky Moderation account - visit @moderation.bsky.app and set it up how you want.
- jayd16 2y agoYeah, I just made an account to test this very thing. As a brand new user it was easy to find. Makes you wonder how earnest the complaints are.
- vehemenz 2y agoCensorship and moderation aren't the same thing. Cmon folks, this comes up once a month on HN.
- steveoscaro 2y agoThis is such a weird logical hoop that that so many people are eager to jump through.
- happytoexplain 2y agoIt's a pretty understandable semantic argument, where tons of people are going to be irrationally biased in whichever of the two directions suits them on a given example. I.e. it's not really "weird", is my point.
- PittleyDunkin 2y agoSorry, which two directions? Surely you can have more than two distinct opinions on how to best handle moderation. Which is a fatal flaw to the twitter "community notes" feature, too.
- ilikehurdles 2y agoThis is just a thought-terminating cliche.
- vehemenz 2y agoIt seems like it doesn't take much to terminate thought for you. If you want to suggest that moderation and censorship are the same—two concepts with obviously differing senses in English—take a stab at making the argument instead of just asserting it in, ironically, a cliche.
- hintymad 2y agoAgreed. I think it is indeed moderation. It's just the moderation that shows how intolerant and how hysterical the left has become.
- anderber 2y agoYou can still see the content, right? So it's just a label, it seems.
- gr__or 2y agoThere is a cultural divide on where you stand wrt transphobia. The default appview is indeed not down with it, where Twitter is ofc very down with it. The protocol is ambivalent towards it, so if you seek hate, you could host your own. I'm very fine (happy even) with the bsky team not being invested in that side of history.
- gigatree 2y agoAnd what if you just espouse the normal view that all of history & 97% of people currently on earth hold?
- dpkonofa 2y agoWhich view is that? I highly doubt that there's any view that fits the criteria you just posited.
- happytoexplain 2y agoWhatever you mean, you can probably write about it without encouraging hatred for groups of people based on qualities that, by themselves, are harmless, like whether they feel male or female, are biologically male or female, are gay or straight, white or black, etc etc.
- zb3 2y agoSeems that if I write that "X that feels Y is X and not Y", then I'm apparently encouraging hate. But the real point is that I feel descriptions should belong to the person describing, not the person described.. How is this hate?
- gigatree 2y agoThe problem is that an overwhelming amount of the left label statements not meant to be hateful as hateful, specifically: “there are two genders”. Everything has been reduced to “hate”, to the point that it actively muddies the waters wrt actual hatred.
- iamdbtoo 2y agoSo the victim here is the Babylon Bee and not the trans person they are mocking?
- zb3 2y agoThe victim of censorship is the Babylon Bee, I don't see that trans person being censored.
- iamdbtoo 2y agoThey aren't censored, though. You can still read their intolerant posts they are just labeled as such. What people really have a problem with here is that they are called out for the intolerance because it reflects upon them.
- plapplap 2y agoThe article they posted was a satire on USA Today naming Levine, a man, as one of their Women Of The Year. This quote from their article highlights the absurdity: "Levine is the U.S. assistant secretary for health for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, where he serves proudly as the first man in that position to dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman." Really the only "intolerance" here is from those who can't stand their ideological beliefs being made fun of, and decide to retaliate via the platform's moderation system.
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- kps 2y agoI think that's in line with pick-your-own — Bluesky has the concept of ‘labelling service’ (with Bluesky as a/the default labeller) and client actions based on those labels (hide/warn/show). If that's all that's happening, the really bad part is contributing to the perception that Bluesky is just a left-Gab (and if that's what you want, there are perfectly good Mastodon cliques already). There used to be a US-politics labeller, of value to non-Americans, but it seems to have fallen over.
- throwaboutbsky5 2y agohttps://bsky.app/profile/sallgrover.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/sallgrover.bsky.social https://x.com/salltweets/status/1857595757882188086 https://x.com/salltweets/status/1857595757882188086 Sall Grover is the creator of a woman-only social app in Australia that was taken to court over that sex exclusivity. Posted a few controversial statements to test the atmosphere and this is the result.
- tedajax 2y ago[flagged]
- unclad5968 2y ago"censorship is fine as long as it's happening to people I don't agree with"