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It was crossing right on time for the interruptions, a Russian officer was on board, it slowed down while crossing, no other ships were slowing down in that are
by mitjam 2y ago
It was crossing right on time for the interruptions, a Russian officer was on board, it slowed down while crossing, no other ships were slowing down in that area during that time (rulingnout headwinds) - it cannot get much clearer. China is now participating in hybrid warfare against Europe (unless they present stronger evidence against this assumption)
- KumaBear 2y agoTime to start sailing the south china sea.
- Y_Y 2y agohttps://news.usni.org/category/fleet-tracker https://news.usni.org/category/fleet-tracker The US has two carrier groups there now, and has maintained a presence there for the last few years: https://news.usni.org/2017/05/29/brief-history-us-freedom-navigation-operations-south-china-sea https://news.usni.org/2017/05/29/brief-history-us-freedom-na...
- jhanschoo 2y agoCoincidentally (or not) a couple lines were down a few hours ago in this south china sea degrading connectivity
- upofadown 2y agoI strongly doubt that this is an official military act of the Chinese government. It will most likely turn out that this is not an official military act of any government as the intent was to do this in secret.
- dylan604 2y agoJust because the intent was to be secret does not negate an official act of any country. To assume that any military does nothing in secret is naivety at its finest.
- greener_grass 2y agoSo if Trump is against China, and China aligns with Russia, will Trump then support Ukraine? Interesting (and choppy) times ahead.
- duxup 2y agoTrump didn’t do anything with regards to China the first time around. I think there’s reason to doubt he is opposed to China in any significant way.
- lysace 2y agoHe did impose tariffs on imports from China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_tr... China–United States trade war An economic conflict between China and the United States has been ongoing since January 2018, when U.S. President Donald Trump began setting tariffs and other trade barriers on China with the goal of forcing it to make changes to what the U.S. says are longstanding unfair trade practices and intellectual property theft.
- duxup 2y agoThat reads like token efforts and then he just moved on ... quit on the whole thing.
- lysace 2y agoBy late 2019, the United States had imposed approximately US$350 billion in tariffs on Chinese imports, while China had imposed approximately US$100 billion on US exports. Then the Biden admin happened. The Joe Biden administration kept the tariffs in place and added additional levies on Chinese goods such as electric vehicles and solar panels. In 2024, the Trump presidential campaign proposed a 60 percent tariff on Chinese goods. It will be interesting to see what happens. 60% all at once would be too disruptive, I think.
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- netsharc 2y ago> China is now participating in hybrid warfare against Europe Geez, I'm glad you're not war minister. It's a Chinese registered ship with a Russian captain. If a terrorist crashes a truck with Portuguese plates into the US embassy in Berlin, would that mean Portugal's declared war against the USA?
- drewcoo 2y ago> war minister Due to an earlier generation's newspeak, that's "defense," not "war."
- Arnt 2y agoAre you sure about that? I happened to notice that at least in some cases, the change of terminology happened roughly when it became clear that offensive war was a losing proposition in terms of money and resources. I suspect that as invading the neighbours became financially irrational, the cool heads that tend to survive in management shifted their stand from mixed offense/defense to just defense.
- mitjam 2y agoYes Mr Pistorius is „Verteidigungsminister“ as in defence, and it‘s called that way since 1955. Not that hard to find out.
- Arnt 2y agoGermany's a good example. In 1914 the ministry was called Kriegsministerium, and an invasion wasn't seen as a necessarily bad idea. I think it already was, but at the time, you could argue in Berlin that a country that started a war could benefit from that war, if executed well. That kind of argument wouldn't make people doubt your judgment yet. A few years later it was clear that offense was necessarily a resource loss. Someone who wanted to build a career as a civil servant might then see a defense ministry as a viable option, but not any sort of offensive war. Offense was clearly not viable, and therefore not a good basis for budget allocations, and therefore the good career move for the civil servants was to focus the ministries entirely on defense.
- giraffe_lady 2y agoWhy did they leave AIS on?
- diggan 2y agoHaving AIS on is mandatory. I'm sure turning it off would raise even higher warning flags than just leaving it on while doing your shady stuff. Regardless, there are satellites covering the area, so you wouldn't get rid of being tracked anyways, would just be a bit slower.
- mistrial9 2y agorecent statistic : Global Fishing Watch’s study published in Science Advances on November 2, 2022, revealed that: Over 55,000 suspected intentional disabling events of AIS signals were identified between 2017 and 2019, obscuring nearly 5 million hours of fishing vessel activity. This phenomenon accounts for up to 6% of global fishing vessel activity.
- bergie 2y agoHaving AIS on is mandatory, and in many places taken quite seriously. Last night we sailed from Fuerteventura to Gran Canaria. There was a cargo ship with broken AIS in the area, and the VTS broadcasted their position over VHF every half hour (with DSC all ships alarms and everything)
- jeroenhd 2y agoHaving AIS on is mandatory, but in practice a lot of ships turn it off regardless. From shadow oil fleets laundering sanctioned oil to fishermen, fake or disabled AIS systems are hardly an exception. I don't think Russia is trying to hide their sabotage, though. Even with AIS disabled, there's no way European intelligence agencies didn't know what ships were floating above these cables at the time they went down. This was a warning, not a secret operation.
- giraffe_lady 2y agoEvery recreational sailor knows that AIS is "mandatory." It's completely routine to see commercial ships running without it.
- underseacables 2y agoI don't know if the evidence is conclusive, but I do think we can say China is supplying Russia with military hardware and supporting them in other ways. So.. it's possible.
- gizmo 2y agoChina trades with pretty much everybody, don't read too much into that. China is not allied with Russia and China is unlikely to engage in sabotage like this because they stand nothing to gain from it.
- petesergeant 2y ago> China is not allied with Russia They don't have a mutual defense treaty, sure, but they describe themselves as having a “friendship without limits”. I would agree that China has no interest in getting involved in Putin's idiot war in Ukraine though, and there's zero benefit to China in antagonizing Europe.
- BurningFrog 2y agoThey do have an alliance: https://www.cfr.org/article/china-russia-and-ukraine-october-2024 https://www.cfr.org/article/china-russia-and-ukraine-october... What the words are worth in a time of need remains to be seen. Neither side is exactly trustworthy :)
- gizmo 2y agoBlessedly we're citizens of good and noble western countries that are supremely trustworthy and that would never ever renege on a deal or fight unjust wars.
- fakedang 2y agoFrom what I understood, China was completely blindsided by the invasion (given that it happened so soon after the announcement of the alliance), and actually somewhat pissed. Russia basically used their alliance as insurance against a fully global sanctions regime, and China had to stick around to save face.