5 ms·

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-explosion-germany-ukraine-arrest-warrant.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-s

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-explosion-germany-ukraine-arrest-warrant.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-...

baybal2 2y ago
[dead]
PittleyDunkin 2y ago
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-navy-was-at-scene-of-nord-stream-blasts--danish-media https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-navy-was-at-...
- mcphage 2y ago
  I think it's pretty clear that the NordStream explosion was a joint US-Russia-Ukraine operation.
  - credit_guy 2y ago
    And Soros was the mastermind.
    - burnt-resistor 2y ago
      I'm waiting for Nazis and Jews to be blamed because Godwin's law after all. The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline for certain and Sy Hersh has the evidence. It is more than probable that this incident indicates possible collusion between the Chinese and Russian governments to sabotage European interests. The simplest fix is for Sweden and Denmark to ban Chinese and Russian ships from their territorial waters until they deliver accountable assurances that this sort of behavior will not happen again. Until then, they must be stopped and European countries must play hardball because that's the only language these criminals understand.
      - nradov 2y ago
        Sy Hersh's wild fantasy has already been debunked. He might have a few pieces of the story right but many of his claims are contradicted by reliable open source intelligence. This is what always happens when a journalist works without an editor and rushes to publish before doing through fact checking.
  - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
    Hell, throw sweden in there too: https://omni.se/marinen-pa-plats-dagarna-fore-explosionerna/a/xg8mL8 https://omni.se/marinen-pa-plats-dagarna-fore-explosionerna/...
    - secondcoming 2y ago
      Nope, it was definitely Poland trying to maximise on their gas connection to Norway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe
      - jeltz 2y ago
        It was clearly Norway trying to sell more gas to Poland.
        mcphage 2y ago
        …wait a second, didn’t Agatha Christie write a book about this?!
  - mmooss 2y ago
    Where is evidence that the US and Russia were involved?
    - oneshtein 2y ago
      > it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975-Tracking_data_for_the_Minerva_Julie_shows_it_spent_around_a_week-a-69_1679009700913.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...
    - mcphage 2y ago
      Just look upthread from my comment.
    - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
      I sense someone hasn't actually read the thread they're replying to.
  - JacobThreeThree 2y ago
    Clearly NordStream was destroyed in a drunken escapade on a rented yacht. https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-real-story-da24839c https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explos...
  - valval 2y ago
    A common goal seems to unite people of all nationalities.
    - mcphage 2y ago
      It’s like the UN of explosions!
  - usrusr 2y ago
    Not sure about joint, might have been half a dozen sides all independently trying to blow it up at the same time. Only way to settle it will be elevating nordstream blowup to an Olympic competition. Will it be summer Olympics (because water) or winter Olympics (because gas supply is so much more exciting in winter)?
    - mcphage 2y ago
      It happened in late September… that’s a tricky one, because there’s no Fall Olympics. I think Summer already has enough water sports, so let’s give this one to Winter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-explosion-germany-ukraine-arrest-warrant.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-...

baybal2 2y ago

[dead]

PittleyDunkin 2y ago

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-navy-was-at-scene-of-nord-stream-blasts--danish-media https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-navy-was-at-...

mcphage 2y ago
I think it's pretty clear that the NordStream explosion was a joint US-Russia-Ukraine operation.
- credit_guy 2y ago
  And Soros was the mastermind.
  - burnt-resistor 2y ago
    I'm waiting for Nazis and Jews to be blamed because Godwin's law after all. The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline for certain and Sy Hersh has the evidence. It is more than probable that this incident indicates possible collusion between the Chinese and Russian governments to sabotage European interests. The simplest fix is for Sweden and Denmark to ban Chinese and Russian ships from their territorial waters until they deliver accountable assurances that this sort of behavior will not happen again. Until then, they must be stopped and European countries must play hardball because that's the only language these criminals understand.
    - nradov 2y ago
      Sy Hersh's wild fantasy has already been debunked. He might have a few pieces of the story right but many of his claims are contradicted by reliable open source intelligence. This is what always happens when a journalist works without an editor and rushes to publish before doing through fact checking.
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  Hell, throw sweden in there too: https://omni.se/marinen-pa-plats-dagarna-fore-explosionerna/a/xg8mL8 https://omni.se/marinen-pa-plats-dagarna-fore-explosionerna/...
  - secondcoming 2y ago
    Nope, it was definitely Poland trying to maximise on their gas connection to Norway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe
    - jeltz 2y ago
      It was clearly Norway trying to sell more gas to Poland.
      - mcphage 2y ago
        …wait a second, didn’t Agatha Christie write a book about this?!
- mmooss 2y ago
  Where is evidence that the US and Russia were involved?
  - oneshtein 2y ago
    > it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975-Tracking_data_for_the_Minerva_Julie_shows_it_spent_around_a_week-a-69_1679009700913.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...
  - mcphage 2y ago
    Just look upthread from my comment.
  - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
    I sense someone hasn't actually read the thread they're replying to.
- JacobThreeThree 2y ago
  Clearly NordStream was destroyed in a drunken escapade on a rented yacht. https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-real-story-da24839c https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explos...
- valval 2y ago
  A common goal seems to unite people of all nationalities.
  - mcphage 2y ago
    It’s like the UN of explosions!
- usrusr 2y ago
  Not sure about joint, might have been half a dozen sides all independently trying to blow it up at the same time. Only way to settle it will be elevating nordstream blowup to an Olympic competition. Will it be summer Olympics (because water) or winter Olympics (because gas supply is so much more exciting in winter)?
  - mcphage 2y ago
    It happened in late September… that’s a tricky one, because there’s no Fall Olympics. I think Summer already has enough water sports, so let’s give this one to Winter.