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> I asked Nicole Avena, a professor of neuroscience at Mount Sinai who studies sugar addiction, if she believed it could be possible for food companies to engin
by unixpickle 2y ago
> I asked Nicole Avena, a professor of neuroscience at Mount Sinai who studies sugar addiction, if she believed it could be possible for food companies to engineer, intentionally or not, compounds that would make GLP-1 drugs less effective. Avena told me it was plausible.
Never really thought about this before. The food industry is a virus and current weight loss drugs are the best vaccine we have, but it'll forever be an arms race.
- Teever 2y agoIt would probably be ridiculously illegal to put substances in products that are designed to counter the function of prescription medication. It's the kind of thing that I hope would result in not only massive fines for the corporations but jail time for the people involved in the decision making and the R&D.
- tayo42 2y agoThe US is about enter an era of no government regulation...
- bamboozled 2y agoI love the excuse given for destroying the FDA, “they are corrupt and allow food coloring in front loops”, you ain’t seen nothing yet boy …
- frankharv 2y agoSome of has to do with Dairy products and milk destroyed by man due to regulation. Farms should not be raided for selling people real milk. The system has gone too far. Let people eat what they want. You want gov milk than buy it. Dont force it on everybody. Nanny state needs to scale it back.
- frankharv 2y agohttps://www.lancasterfarming.com/farming-news/dairy/raid-on-farm-sparks-debate-over-raw-milk-oversight-and-government-overreach/article_002d5ebc-ba30-11ee-8f53-6f93227a52c2.html https://www.lancasterfarming.com/farming-news/dairy/raid-on-...
- lancesells 2y agoFirst they came for my gas stoves and now my raw milk. Let's destroy the FDA and food safety that keeps people alive because pasteurization is the devil. Counterpoint: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/the-dangers-of-raw-milk-what-you-should-know https://health.clevelandclinic.org/the-dangers-of-raw-milk-w...
- tayo42 2y agoYou're raid link is a raid done by the PA police. I can buy raw milk in California supermarkets. Complain to your state about it.
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- khaki54 2y agoI don't think the FDA should be destroyed. Sometimes you have to question if they are in the wrong too frequently, for instance recalling 80,000 lbs. of butter (when it's already more than $7 lb. in most grocery stores) because the butter packaging didn't say "Contains milk". It's a recent example of something they did that only caused harm. Notify the company to fix their packaging, sure, but under no circumstances should they be recalling the butter. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco-butter-recall/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco-butter-recall/
- dns_snek 2y agoI think we can consider ourselves lucky if government(s) act quickly to prohibit things before they cause too much damage. I'd love to live in a world where these sorts of people are held accountable but unfortunately we weren't born in the right timeline to experience that.
- tonyedgecombe 2y agoThey already put substances in food to make us crave them more. It's not a huge leap from there.
- Teever 2y agoIt is a huge leap from the status quo to intentionally disrupting the effects of prescription drugs. One is unscrupulous and the other is blatantly illegal.
- ohthatsnotright 2y agoNot for long, given who will be running the next administrations FDA, and the general cult of "de-regulation" taking hold.
- sabbaticaldev 2y agosomeone that voted for them would argue that those regulations are what brought us to the current predicament. It’s currently very legal to make addictive unhealthy food
- mathgeek 2y agoIf they do find something that fits the bill, it will be referred to and marketed as “appealing to the cravings of folks on these drugs, and they personally need to be responsible about their choices”. It’s helpful to remember that this is the same corporate landscape where (in the US) insurance companies can decline prescriptions in order to reduce their own costs.
- bodiekane 2y agoWhat law would it be breaking? There are tons of common foods and food additives that are known to interact with medications. Grapefruit juice for instance has a large and diverse set of drug interactions, some potentially very dangerous: https://www.drugs.com/article/grapefruit-drug-interactions.html https://www.drugs.com/article/grapefruit-drug-interactions.h... but that doesn't mean it's illegal to sell or consume.
- gizmo686 2y agoThey don't need to be designed to do that. Companies don't really understand why things sell. They have a lot of ideas about what makes a successful product that are generally accurate. But at the end of the day, they just try stuff, see what sells, then do more of that. If a sizeable portion of the market is on Ozempic, then this will naturally lead to there being a portion of the market that sells well to those people. At that will likely happen a decade before any human understands the mechanics by which that food sells well to people on Ozempic.
- Vampiero 2y agoCoca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.
- scotty79 2y agoI don't think there's anything sinister about using acid to make sugar taste better. You can put ungodly amount of sugar in your tea if you squeeze half a lemon into it and it's delicious.
- bamboozled 2y agotired of it already , feel like all this food bashing is the new “wokeness”. I enjoyed coca-cola in moderation for decades, so what ?
- sabbaticaldev 2y agoi have a friend literally dying because he can’t stop being addicted to coke. Even with his kidneys and liver stopping working, he’ll still drink it. So what, you ask?
- alphan0n 2y agoSo what, we asked. If coke stopped existing this very second, your friend would find something else to destroy their body with, because the cause of their problem isn’t coke and the prohibition of it isn’t a solution.
- mensetmanusman 2y agoPeople with survivor bias don’t understand the occasional self sacrifice required for the good of the larger set of humanity.
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- whaleofatw2022 2y agoIdk. One challenge is that plenty of natural things can interfere with prescription medication... grapefruit juice comes to mind.
- fazeirony 2y agoya! just like we did with the sackler family right? they're doing hard time for creating the opioid epidemic. oh wait, they're billionaires so i forgot they get a different set of rules. don't hold your breath on any jail time for food companies doing this is my point.
- keybored 2y agoYou give the game away with that analogy. We wouldn’t throw our hands up if private corporations were able to sell more and more dangerous guns to civilians (arms race). "Ah but what can we do, it's an arms race." We would make it illegal.
- tstrimple 2y agoActually we are explicitly throwing our hands up over more and more dangerous guns in civilian hands. We haven't made it illegal and all attempts at even moderate regulation are met with outrage over losing "freedom".
- keybored 2y agoWe as in Humans. EDIT: But not even Americans just Throw Their Hands up over guns. Many, but not all! In fact many are very concerned about the lack of gun regulation. Contrast with the food industry. There the status quo is to throw your hands up as long as people are making a profit. No matter how underhanded the tactics. Oh well if there is a demand then that is just their god-given right (to make a profit).