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The best thing, by a long way, that Google Scholar has achieved is denying Elsevier & co a monopoly on academic search. In most universities here in New Zealan
by teruakohatu 2y ago
The best thing, by a long way, that Google Scholar has achieved is denying Elsevier & co a monopoly on academic search.
In most universities here in New Zealand, articles have to be published in a journal indexed by Elsevier's Scopus. Not in a Scopus-indexed journal, it does not count anymore than a reddit comment. This gives Elsevier tremendous power. But in CS/ML/AI most academics and students turn to Google Scholar first when doing searches.
- freefaler 2y agoor turn to sci-hub and annas-arhive :)
- philipkglass 2y agoYou use Google Scholar to find papers you're interested in, then use sci-hub to actually read them.
- freefaler 2y agoindeed... and use Zotero with the correct plugin to download them automagically
- epcoa 2y agosci-hub hasn't been updated in 4 years and the sources for annas-archive like nexus-stc are seriously hit or miss (depends on the field).
- consf 2y ago[dead]
- orochimaaru 2y agoNot sure if researchgate is still a thing. I had it and uploaded all my papers there. They show up automatically on Google. I believe this is allowed since you’re allowed to share copies of your publication on your website. The problem is my researchgate account was connected to my academic account. It’s been a while since I graduated so I’ve lost access to my own publications and page. But I used to use researchgate and requests in researchgate quite a bit.
- teruakohatu 2y agoDoes sci-hub have up to date content these days? Having pretty wide journal access through my institution means I don’t need to reach out to sci-hub.
- epcoa 2y agosci-hub proper hasn't been updated since it's indefinite pause in december 2020. Alternatives are of variable success depending on field. It might be better for CS/Math, but medicine and life sciences it's pretty bad.
- whimsicalism 2y agoi believe they paused due to an indian court injunction and the case was heard this year, does anyone know any update?
- insane_dreamer 2y agoHow would an Indian court case have any jurisdiction in Russia (not to mention mirrors)?
- cipheredStones 2y agoSci-Hub complied with the order with the intent to actually argue their case (and possibly establish a legal justification for the site), rather than just defying the order and continuing to play cat-and-mouse with every authority.
- joshuaissac 2y agoAnd this is because they have a chance of winning. The same court has previously adopted a broad interpretation of what constitutes fair dealing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford_v._Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford_v._Ramesh...
- whimsicalism 2y agoscihub is dying unfortunately :( the good news is it is happening just as all the fields i'm interested in except for some experimental physics & biology have moved to OA
- Loughla 2y agooa resources have really kicked it into high gear post covid. They used to be kind of a joke, but they're actually competitive now. It's nice to see.
- Onawa 2y agoI believe NIH's directive that all intramural and extramural research must be published OA has helped move things in that direction quite a lot.
- kedarkhand 2y agoSorry but what is OA?
- bloak 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access (I assume)
- NordStreamYacht 2y ago[dead]
- thrdbndndn 2y agoI'm a proud user of sci-hub but when I was still in academics, I have never used it. My school has access to all the journals I ever needed, plus more old non-digitized ones I can borrow from library (including interlibrary access).
- thrw42A8N 2y agoMy school has no such thing and yet requires me to find and cite research.
- consf 2y ago[dead]
- ryzvonusef 2y agoIt depends on the discipline, also the mode of learning (I'm distance learning so no physical library access). My uni (Northampton) has access to a LOT of journals... but has a blindspot in management, specifically accountancy focus journals; am doing my lit review for my MSc dissertation and the number of times I hit a dead end is frustrating. Sci-hub and Annas-Archive are also not interested in that segment, so double whammy. But surprisingly Archive.org was able to help me out a bit, so thanks for that.
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- p4bl0 2y agoYet it still participates and encourages the bibliometrics game, which benefits the big publishers. A simple way to make a step away from encouraging bibliometrics (which would be a step in the right direction) would be to list publications by date (most recent first) on authors pages rather than by citations count, or at least to let either users and/or authors choose the default sorting they want to use (when visiting a page for users, for their page by default for authors).
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- Scriddie 2y agothis^10
- SideQuark 2y ago> the bibliometrics game Bibliometrics, in use for over 150 years now, is not a game. That's like arguing there is no value in the PageRank algorithm, and no validity to trying to find out which journals or researchers or research teams publish better content using evidence to do so. > which benefits the big publishers Ignoring that it helps small researchers seems short sighted. > A simple way to make a step ... would be to list publications by date It's really that hard to click "year" and have that sorted? It's almost a certainty when someone is looking for a scholar, they are looking for more highly cited work than not, so the default is probably the best use of reader times. I absolutely know when I look up an author, I am interested in what other work they did that is highly regarded more than any other factor. Once in a while I look to see what they did recently, which is exactly one click away.
- mindcrime 2y agoTo be fair, you did hedge and say "almost a certainty" and maybe that's true. But speaking for myself, I generally couldn't care less about citation count. If anything, my interest in a document may be inversely proportional to the citation count. And that's because I'm often looking for either a. "lost gems" - things are are actually great/useful research, but that got overlooked for whatever reason, or b. historical references to obscure topics that I'm deep-diving into. BUT... I'm not in formal academia, I care very little about publishing research myself (at least not from a bibliometric perspective. For me "publishing" might be writing a blog post or maybe submitting a pre-print somewhere) so I'm just not part of that whole (racket|game|whatever-you-want-to-call-it).