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And what is the EU populace or government going to do about it? Tracking should have been “opt in” and inferred from browser/device settings. I can see why big
by xyst 2y ago
And what is the EU populace or government going to do about it?
Tracking should have been “opt in” and inferred from browser/device settings. I can see why big tech is dragging their ass to make the UX much better, but government should kick them into overdrive by demanding tracking/cookies be opt-in.
Companies should ultimately set up a system which incentivizes the tracking, rather than stealing it behind the scenes
- bigfatkitten 2y agoBig Tech is making the UX awful on purpose. It's nothing more than malicious compliance.
- kuschku 2y ago> Tracking should have been “opt in” Tracking is “opt in”. Google and Facebook both lost and had to change their cookie dialogs. Companies are intentionally noncompliant because it makes them money.
- wongarsu 2y agoTracking cookies are opt-in, that's what the pop-up tries to pressure you to do. The idea of the legislation was that sites would prefer to trade analytics accuracy for a better user experience. Obviously that hasn't worked out.
- IshKebab 2y agoI don't think so. The idea was the users care so much about privacy they will be grateful that they get informed about their options and get to choose not to be tracked... every 5 minutes.
- viraptor 2y agoEU already made it opt-in. This resulted in the current situation of malicious compliance. I don't think they'd ever force the way to implement it through device settings, since you may operate a device you don't own (and won't be able to change them).
- nightpool 2y agoWho would ever opt in from device settings if not given an incentive to do so? What would even be the point of providing such an "opt in" compared to just banning tracking entirely? If you made tracking required in the device settings, you'd see the exact same pop-ups, they'd just give you a worse and worse user experience until you gave in and changed your device settings, or similar
- lm28469 2y ago> And what is the EU populace or government going to do about it? Same thing the US populace do about being subject to food additives that are banned in the entire civilized world: not much
- ohnoitsahuman 2y agoAND we'll make fun of the guy that's trying to fix it.
- yreg 2y ago> I can see why big tech is dragging their ass to make the UX much better EU's own government websites are riddled with the cookie banners.
- piva00 2y agoThose follow the law allowing a simple 1-click opt out as easily as opt-in while saving the choice to not bother you again.
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- yreg 2y agoWhy bother me with it at all? If tracking-to-the-level-requiring-special-consent is bad, then don't do it and don't ask me about it. A "simple 1-click opt out" on pretty much every website I visit is still a horrible user experience, at least for me. I don't save any cookies in my (semi-hobby) product, so I don't display any banners to my visitors.
- ggreer 2y agoThe problem is that cookie law requires consent not just for tracking cookies, but for everything except "strictly necessary cookies".[1] This means that any cookie that stores preferences (preferred language, location for weather info, etc) requires a consent banner, as they are not considered strictly necessary. The EU law also classifies any analytics or performance cookies as not strictly necessary, meaning that if your frontend uses software like New Relic, Datadog, or Splunk, you also need a cookie banner. 1. https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ https://gdpr.eu/cookies/