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Everyone here talking like this something unique netflix had to deal with. Hotstar live streamed india va Pakistan cricket match with zero issues with all time

Everyone here talking like this something unique netflix had to deal with. Hotstar live streamed india va Pakistan cricket match with zero issues with all time high live viewership ever in the history of live telecast. Why would viewers paying $20 month want to think about their technical issues, they dropped the ball pure and simple. Tech already exists for this, it’s been done before even by espn, nothing new here.

al_borland 2y ago
The Independent reports 35m viewers of that cricket match [0]. Rolling Stone reported 120m for Tyson and Paul on Netflix [1]. These are very different numbers. 120m is Super Bowl territory. Could Hotstar handle 3-4 of those cricket matches at the same time without issue? [0] https://www.the-independent.com/sport/cricket/india-pakistan-world-cup-hotstar-record-fans-b2430423.html https://www.the-independent.com/sport/cricket/india-pakistan... [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jake-paul-mike-tyson-boxing-win-1235166434/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jake-paul-...
- dilyevsky 2y ago
  Majority of superbowl viewers watch it on cable. Streaming gets fewer than 10M concurrents
  - firesteelrain 2y ago
    Until it switches entirely to Netflix one day
    - DaSHacka 2y ago
      Going by their failure this time around, that's not happening anytime soon.
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Do people even have cable TV anymore? I have internet from my "cable" company but I don't have the "cable" connected to anything but the modem. Everything I watch is streamed. The only thing connected to my TV is a Roku.
    - cabinguy 2y ago
      I assume you know the answer to your questions is: of course they do. However, I’m in the same boat as you. The joke’s on us, I guess.
      - SoftTalker 2y ago
        I guess my question is: why? "Cable boxes" are uniformly awful to use in my experience. The UI is clunky, they take up space and it's another remote and another tangle of wires to try to hide. What advantage do they offer in 2024?
        reaperducer 2y ago
        What advantage do they offer in 2024? They exist in places where the internet infrastructure is not adequate for constant multiple streams. Content is king. And there's lots of content on cable that is not on streaming. Just consider local and regional news and sports. Many residential buildings, like the one in which I live, include cable TV with the rent. Why add more clutter and expense for streaming? There are plenty of other reasons. Your position seems to be "stop liking things I don't like."
        MBCook 2y ago
        > What advantage do they offer in 2024? Live news and sports is huge for a ton of people. You have access to all the shows from the major networks. You don’t need to subscribe to Peacock and Paramount and Hulu and the TBS app and Discovery+ and… Better yet, they’re all combined in one interface as opposed to all trying to be the only thing that you use. Also, especially if you grew up with it, there is absolutely a simplicity in linear TV. Everyone was used to a DVR. And yeah the interface sucks, but it sucked for everyone already anyway so they’re used to it. Don’t know what you wanna watch? Turn on a channel you watch and just see what’s on. No looking at 400 things to pick between. I’ve seen people switch off and have serious trouble because it’s such a different way of watching TV from what they were used to. They end up using something like Hulu Live or YouTube TV to try and get the experience they’re used to back.
- achow 2y ago
  India - Australia is the one of interest, scored cricket’s highest concurrent audience ever, 59 Million. https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/biggest-cricket-world-cup-ever-smashes-broadcast-and-digital-records https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/biggest-cricket-world-cup-e...
- kelvie 2y ago
  The Games Awards claims to have 118 million livestreams [1], and went off without a hitch. I watched it for the game trailers, actually shocked that it's also superbowl viewership territory. https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/game-awards-2023-breaks-viewership-record-livestreams-1235838181 https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/game-awards-2023-break...
  - wavesounds 2y ago
    "The festivities were streamed live from the Peacock Theater in L.A. across more than 30 platforms including YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, TikTok Live, X (Twitter), Steam, WeChat, Bilibili, Huya, DouYu, Xiaohongshu and Instagram Live"
    - MBCook 2y ago
      So no one service had to take the huge brunt. Much of it was divided I guess.
- al_borland 2y ago
  Too late for me to edit, but Netflix is now reporting 60m, half of what Rolling Stone said. https://x.com/netflix/status/1857906492235723244?s=46 https://x.com/netflix/status/1857906492235723244?s=46
lxgr 2y ago
But that's exactly the point: Netflix didn't do this in a vacuum, they did it within Netflix. It might just have been easier to start from scratch, maybe using an external partner experienced in live streaming, but the chances of that decision happening in a tech-heavy company such as Netflix that seems to pride itself on being an industry leader are close to zero.
rldjbpin 2y ago
> with zero issues depending on whom you ask, the bitrate used by the stream is significantly lower than what is considered acceptable from free livestreaming services, that albeit stream to much, much smaller audience. without splitting hairs, livestreaming was never their forte, and going live with degradation elsewhere is not a great look for our distributed computing champ.

al_borland 2y ago

The Independent reports 35m viewers of that cricket match [0]. Rolling Stone reported 120m for Tyson and Paul on Netflix [1]. These are very different numbers. 120m is Super Bowl territory. Could Hotstar handle 3-4 of those cricket matches at the same time without issue? [0] https://www.the-independent.com/sport/cricket/india-pakistan-world-cup-hotstar-record-fans-b2430423.html https://www.the-independent.com/sport/cricket/india-pakistan... [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jake-paul-mike-tyson-boxing-win-1235166434/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jake-paul-...

dilyevsky 2y ago
Majority of superbowl viewers watch it on cable. Streaming gets fewer than 10M concurrents
- firesteelrain 2y ago
  Until it switches entirely to Netflix one day
  - DaSHacka 2y ago
    Going by their failure this time around, that's not happening anytime soon.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Do people even have cable TV anymore? I have internet from my "cable" company but I don't have the "cable" connected to anything but the modem. Everything I watch is streamed. The only thing connected to my TV is a Roku.
  - cabinguy 2y ago
    I assume you know the answer to your questions is: of course they do. However, I’m in the same boat as you. The joke’s on us, I guess.
    - SoftTalker 2y ago
      I guess my question is: why? "Cable boxes" are uniformly awful to use in my experience. The UI is clunky, they take up space and it's another remote and another tangle of wires to try to hide. What advantage do they offer in 2024?
      - reaperducer 2y ago
        What advantage do they offer in 2024? They exist in places where the internet infrastructure is not adequate for constant multiple streams. Content is king. And there's lots of content on cable that is not on streaming. Just consider local and regional news and sports. Many residential buildings, like the one in which I live, include cable TV with the rent. Why add more clutter and expense for streaming? There are plenty of other reasons. Your position seems to be "stop liking things I don't like."
      - MBCook 2y ago
        > What advantage do they offer in 2024? Live news and sports is huge for a ton of people. You have access to all the shows from the major networks. You don’t need to subscribe to Peacock and Paramount and Hulu and the TBS app and Discovery+ and… Better yet, they’re all combined in one interface as opposed to all trying to be the only thing that you use. Also, especially if you grew up with it, there is absolutely a simplicity in linear TV. Everyone was used to a DVR. And yeah the interface sucks, but it sucked for everyone already anyway so they’re used to it. Don’t know what you wanna watch? Turn on a channel you watch and just see what’s on. No looking at 400 things to pick between. I’ve seen people switch off and have serious trouble because it’s such a different way of watching TV from what they were used to. They end up using something like Hulu Live or YouTube TV to try and get the experience they’re used to back.
achow 2y ago
India - Australia is the one of interest, scored cricket’s highest concurrent audience ever, 59 Million. https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/biggest-cricket-world-cup-ever-smashes-broadcast-and-digital-records https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/biggest-cricket-world-cup-e...
kelvie 2y ago
The Games Awards claims to have 118 million livestreams [1], and went off without a hitch. I watched it for the game trailers, actually shocked that it's also superbowl viewership territory. https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/game-awards-2023-breaks-viewership-record-livestreams-1235838181 https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/game-awards-2023-break...
- wavesounds 2y ago
  "The festivities were streamed live from the Peacock Theater in L.A. across more than 30 platforms including YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, TikTok Live, X (Twitter), Steam, WeChat, Bilibili, Huya, DouYu, Xiaohongshu and Instagram Live"
  - MBCook 2y ago
    So no one service had to take the huge brunt. Much of it was divided I guess.
al_borland 2y ago
Too late for me to edit, but Netflix is now reporting 60m, half of what Rolling Stone said. https://x.com/netflix/status/1857906492235723244?s=46 https://x.com/netflix/status/1857906492235723244?s=46

lxgr 2y ago

But that's exactly the point: Netflix didn't do this in a vacuum, they did it within Netflix. It might just have been easier to start from scratch, maybe using an external partner experienced in live streaming, but the chances of that decision happening in a tech-heavy company such as Netflix that seems to pride itself on being an industry leader are close to zero.

rldjbpin 2y ago

> with zero issues depending on whom you ask, the bitrate used by the stream is significantly lower than what is considered acceptable from free livestreaming services, that albeit stream to much, much smaller audience. without splitting hairs, livestreaming was never their forte, and going live with degradation elsewhere is not a great look for our distributed computing champ.