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Hey we're only writing what our overlords (bill gates etc) tell us to write over the vaccine antenna we got inserted.

by Hikikomori 2y ago

nixdev 2y ago
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- Hikikomori 2y ago
  > They are vaccines. > Okay they aren't vaccines they are mRNA, but we changed the definition of vaccine. There's many different types of vaccines, you can invent new ones without changing the definition. > They prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus. > Okay they don't prevent you from contracting the virus but they prevent you from spreading. > Okay they don't prevent you from spreading but they reduce symptoms. They work on a specific strain of the virus, they're not effective against other strains. The whole point about quarantining, social distancing, masks, etc, is to lower the spread of a strain before it has a chance to mutate into a new one so a vaccine that targets it can be administrated to enough of the population so it can actually be effective in stopping its spread. Did you happen to have a brain worm by any chance?
  - nixdev 2y ago
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    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      It's not gene therapy. Gene therapy changes DNA. The vaccine causes some proteins to be produced temporarily and then it goes away. And those proteins make the immune system react to build immunity to them. The second half of that sentence is the definition of a vaccine. What do you think a vaccine is? And nothing is ever literally 100% safe, but people exaggerate. It's ridiculous to reject something because it got exaggerated about at some point.
      - nixdev 2y ago
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      - Dylan16807 2y ago
        They linked a study, I will just reply with this: https://www.chop.edu/parents-pack/evaluating-information/why-scientific-info-different/no-study-does-not-prove-what-you-think-it-does/misinterpreted-science#:~:text=No.%20This%20study%20does%20not%20prove%20that%20RNA%20from%20the%20COVID%2D19%20vaccine%20changes%20DNA https://www.chop.edu/parents-pack/evaluating-information/why.... Also even if that implication is right, it would be a side effect to the much bigger main effect of being a vaccine. And we'd have to check if it happens more with the vaccine than with the actual virus.
        nixdev 2y ago
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- shadowgovt 2y ago
  "COVID-19 vaccination of the index case reduced infectiousness by 44% (95% CI, 27-57%), vaccination of the close contact reduced susceptibility by 69% (95% CI, 65-73%), and vaccination of both reduced transmissibility by 74% (95% CI, 70-78%) in social settings, suggesting some synergy of effects." "Conclusions: COVID-19 vaccination reduces infectiousness and susceptibility; however, these effects are insufficient for complete control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially in older people and household setting." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36724697/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36724697/ Overall, I think the dominant phenomenon here is people wanted to typecast floating-point data to boolean answers, the media did their best to accomodate that want, and almost nobody reads primary sources.
  - nixdev 2y ago
    What happened to 100%? > Pfizer/BioNTech says its Covid-19 vaccine is 100% effective and well tolerated in adolescents https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/pfizer-vaccine-adolescent-trial-results/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/pfizer-vaccine-adolesc...
    - shadowgovt 2y ago
      You'd have to ask the Pfizer / BioNTech press staff, since they were the source. Later down in this article, they clarify with some hard numbers: "Researchers observed 18 Covid-19 cases among the 1,129 participants who were given a placebo, and none among the 1,131 volunteers who got the vaccine. The data has yet to be peer reviewed." So Pfizer/BioNTech is reporting 100% efficacy on a non-peer-reviewed study where 1.5% of the control group contracted the disease (news article doesn't say how "contraction of disease" was identified, whether that was antibody presence or symptoms). News has a bad habit of reducing complex circumstances to headlines that appear yes-or-no.
  - nixdev 2y ago
    womp womp > IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/

Hey we're only writing what our overlords (bill gates etc) tell us to write over the vaccine antenna we got inserted.

nixdev 2y ago

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Hikikomori 2y ago
> They are vaccines. > Okay they aren't vaccines they are mRNA, but we changed the definition of vaccine. There's many different types of vaccines, you can invent new ones without changing the definition. > They prevent you from contracting and spreading the virus. > Okay they don't prevent you from contracting the virus but they prevent you from spreading. > Okay they don't prevent you from spreading but they reduce symptoms. They work on a specific strain of the virus, they're not effective against other strains. The whole point about quarantining, social distancing, masks, etc, is to lower the spread of a strain before it has a chance to mutate into a new one so a vaccine that targets it can be administrated to enough of the population so it can actually be effective in stopping its spread. Did you happen to have a brain worm by any chance?
- nixdev 2y ago
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  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    It's not gene therapy. Gene therapy changes DNA. The vaccine causes some proteins to be produced temporarily and then it goes away. And those proteins make the immune system react to build immunity to them. The second half of that sentence is the definition of a vaccine. What do you think a vaccine is? And nothing is ever literally 100% safe, but people exaggerate. It's ridiculous to reject something because it got exaggerated about at some point.
    - nixdev 2y ago
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    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      They linked a study, I will just reply with this: https://www.chop.edu/parents-pack/evaluating-information/why-scientific-info-different/no-study-does-not-prove-what-you-think-it-does/misinterpreted-science#:~:text=No.%20This%20study%20does%20not%20prove%20that%20RNA%20from%20the%20COVID%2D19%20vaccine%20changes%20DNA https://www.chop.edu/parents-pack/evaluating-information/why.... Also even if that implication is right, it would be a side effect to the much bigger main effect of being a vaccine. And we'd have to check if it happens more with the vaccine than with the actual virus.
      - nixdev 2y ago
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shadowgovt 2y ago
"COVID-19 vaccination of the index case reduced infectiousness by 44% (95% CI, 27-57%), vaccination of the close contact reduced susceptibility by 69% (95% CI, 65-73%), and vaccination of both reduced transmissibility by 74% (95% CI, 70-78%) in social settings, suggesting some synergy of effects." "Conclusions: COVID-19 vaccination reduces infectiousness and susceptibility; however, these effects are insufficient for complete control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially in older people and household setting." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36724697/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36724697/ Overall, I think the dominant phenomenon here is people wanted to typecast floating-point data to boolean answers, the media did their best to accomodate that want, and almost nobody reads primary sources.
- nixdev 2y ago
  What happened to 100%? > Pfizer/BioNTech says its Covid-19 vaccine is 100% effective and well tolerated in adolescents https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/pfizer-vaccine-adolescent-trial-results/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/health/pfizer-vaccine-adolesc...
  - shadowgovt 2y ago
    You'd have to ask the Pfizer / BioNTech press staff, since they were the source. Later down in this article, they clarify with some hard numbers: "Researchers observed 18 Covid-19 cases among the 1,129 participants who were given a placebo, and none among the 1,131 volunteers who got the vaccine. The data has yet to be peer reviewed." So Pfizer/BioNTech is reporting 100% efficacy on a non-peer-reviewed study where 1.5% of the control group contracted the disease (news article doesn't say how "contraction of disease" was identified, whether that was antibody presence or symptoms). News has a bad habit of reducing complex circumstances to headlines that appear yes-or-no.
- nixdev 2y ago
  womp womp > IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37243095/