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Yes, the US famously has breached foreign infrastructure. In Confessions of an Economic Hitman[0], Josh Perkins discusses how he knows on good authority the US

Yes, the US famously has breached foreign infrastructure. In Confessions of an Economic Hitman[0], Josh Perkins discusses how he knows on good authority the US could shutdown the Japanese electrical grid with relative ease if needed, which an ally. Imagine what they do to perceived enemies. [0]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2159.Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2159.Confessions_of_an_E... This book was on of my favorite books to site in extemporaneous speaking events.

Aeolun 2y ago
The US could do a great many things to Japan with relative ease, given their (relatively) enormous military presence in the country.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
Confessions is best read as historical fiction. It's brilliantly written. But the author has never been able to substantiate much [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit...
- TechDebtDevin 2y ago
  True, but I would also deny most of those accusations even if true If I was the State Department. If I was the US state department. I personally know a McKensey Principal who's government work isn't that far off of what Perkins describes. and they love bragging about it too.
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  The accusations also seem unsubstantiated and ideological in nature. Eg > Mallaby said that Perkins' conception of international finance is "largely a dream" and that his "basic contentions are flat wrong" because "the poor don't always lose" when developing countries borrow money. It's not exactly an uncommon take to center conceptions neocolonialism around the World Bank and the IMF. This just seems like a Steven Pinker blunt rotation picking on the work.
morpheuskafka 2y ago
The US famously compromised the Greek phone switches a while back, which were written in Erlang and thus so was the malware (correction--it was actually the proprietary predecessor to Erland, called PLEX). An telecom employee died under mysterious circumstances in the aftermath and the US Embassy in Athens was found to have close ties to the individuals involved; a CIA employee was later charged and fled back to the US. All in a days work for the "leaders of the free world."
- mikrotikker 2y ago
  Wasn't it that the Greek govt allowed the NSA in to monitor the Olympics but they overstayed their welcome?
  - morpheuskafka 2y ago
    They were invited to provide some kind of assistance, but I can't imagine they were given the green light to upload arbitrary code into the countrywide telephone exchange without notifying the Greeks at all, or providing a copy of it. It's not just that they added Greek officials phones to the monitoring list alongside legitimate suspects, but the whole program itself was hidden. Nor is it clear how the US could have forwarded any legitimate threats captured without admitting the whole program. The whole Olympics rationale is a bit weird too. Yes, it is a big event and there have been a few terrorist attacks in its history, but relatively few considering its huge scale. Also, almost every state actor is participating and thus unlikely to cause any major trouble. It's a big propaganda thing for most of the US-order enemies. It doesn't really make sense why the NSA would have been authorized such extensive access, to the exclusion of the host country's own personnel, instead of requesting help from neighboring EU countries that already presumably cooperate on law enforcement. That sounds like a cover story the US made up to change it from "act of war" level to "oops we forgot to ask if this was okay."

Aeolun 2y ago

The US could do a great many things to Japan with relative ease, given their (relatively) enormous military presence in the country.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

Confessions is best read as historical fiction. It's brilliantly written. But the author has never been able to substantiate much [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit...

TechDebtDevin 2y ago
True, but I would also deny most of those accusations even if true If I was the State Department. If I was the US state department. I personally know a McKensey Principal who's government work isn't that far off of what Perkins describes. and they love bragging about it too.
PittleyDunkin 2y ago
The accusations also seem unsubstantiated and ideological in nature. Eg > Mallaby said that Perkins' conception of international finance is "largely a dream" and that his "basic contentions are flat wrong" because "the poor don't always lose" when developing countries borrow money. It's not exactly an uncommon take to center conceptions neocolonialism around the World Bank and the IMF. This just seems like a Steven Pinker blunt rotation picking on the work.

morpheuskafka 2y ago

The US famously compromised the Greek phone switches a while back, which were written in Erlang and thus so was the malware (correction--it was actually the proprietary predecessor to Erland, called PLEX). An telecom employee died under mysterious circumstances in the aftermath and the US Embassy in Athens was found to have close ties to the individuals involved; a CIA employee was later charged and fled back to the US. All in a days work for the "leaders of the free world."

mikrotikker 2y ago
Wasn't it that the Greek govt allowed the NSA in to monitor the Olympics but they overstayed their welcome?
- morpheuskafka 2y ago
  They were invited to provide some kind of assistance, but I can't imagine they were given the green light to upload arbitrary code into the countrywide telephone exchange without notifying the Greeks at all, or providing a copy of it. It's not just that they added Greek officials phones to the monitoring list alongside legitimate suspects, but the whole program itself was hidden. Nor is it clear how the US could have forwarded any legitimate threats captured without admitting the whole program. The whole Olympics rationale is a bit weird too. Yes, it is a big event and there have been a few terrorist attacks in its history, but relatively few considering its huge scale. Also, almost every state actor is participating and thus unlikely to cause any major trouble. It's a big propaganda thing for most of the US-order enemies. It doesn't really make sense why the NSA would have been authorized such extensive access, to the exclusion of the host country's own personnel, instead of requesting help from neighboring EU countries that already presumably cooperate on law enforcement. That sounds like a cover story the US made up to change it from "act of war" level to "oops we forgot to ask if this was okay."