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> Hearing aids typically cost anywhere from ₹ 50,000 to upwards of ₹ 8L depending on the correction capability For those who don't recognize the ₹ symbol it is

by tzs 2y ago

> Hearing aids typically cost anywhere from ₹ 50,000 to upwards of ₹ 8L depending on the correction capability For those who don't recognize the ₹ symbol it is the symbol for the Indian Rupee and an "L" after a number means 100,000, so ₹ 8L is ₹ 800,000. At current exchange rates that puts hearing aids in India from $600 to upwards of $9,500. AirPods Pro 2 are ₹ 24,900 ($295).

hoistbypetard 2y ago
Thanks for posting this. I recognized the currency symbol but was confused by the "L".
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  The Indian numbering system marks odd power of ten, i.e. 10 ^ {1, 3, 5, 7}. Unit, thousand, lakh, crore [1]. Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system
  - eru 2y ago
    > Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera. To make matters more confusing, for American English it goes millions, billions, trillions. For British English it used to go millions, milliards, billions, billiards, trillions, trilliards. (That 'long scale' is still the way German used to work ten years ago. No clue if it changed in the meantime.)
    - andreareina 2y ago
      I still mourn the long scale. A billion is obviously a million millions.
      - SushiHippie 2y ago
        Thanks! In germany we use the long scale, and this is the first time it clicks. "Eine Billion" is Million² bi -> 2 "Eine Billiarde" is 1000 * Million² "Eine Trillion" is million³ tri -> 3 "Eine Trilliarde" is 1000 * Million³ And so on Yes I knew what a million, milliard, billion, billiarde and so on are, but it never made click that the long scale makes so much sense.
        lotsofpulp 2y ago
        I feel like at that point, I would rather just use scientific notation (10^x). I also like the easy suffix for thousand (k), million (M), billion (B), trillion (T), quadrillion (Q) for written conversation. $10B revenue, 5k liters, 300M people, etc.
        eru 2y ago
        Your 'suffixes' are a hodge-podge. Might as well stick with SI prefixes (like you are doing with the 'k' already?)
        lotsofpulp 2y ago
        It isn’t consistent, but a lot more people can fluently read “B” for billion rather than “G” giga and understand 10^9. The SI prefix “k” is sufficiently used that it is understood.
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        It is less intuitive for me as an outsider that a trillion would be a million million millions instead of a billion billions
        eru 2y ago
        Maybe, but either way is relatively quickly to learn by rote for the few orders of magnitude that come up in 'daily life'. For anything bigger, you'd use 'scientific' notation anyway.
    - Lio 2y ago
      Haven't we given up on our scale in the UK to match the US system? i.e. the milliard was replaced with the US billion.
      - Lalabadie 2y ago
        Anecdotally, a milliard in French is a billion in English.
greggsy 2y ago
I’m not across the scope of hearing aid technology, but what does the product at that upper tier actually look like, and how much does it cost in another country? I’m envisioning some highly specialised and tuned implant at that price.
- bayindirh 2y ago
  You generally get a custom mold for your ear canals and a specially tuned DSP for your frequency curves + BT connection to your phone for calls, at least. Your device can be retuned over and over as long as it functions, too. What drives the prices up is a multitude of factors: High end DSPs, micro speakers which can do good sound reproduction at required frequencies, relatively low sales volume, R&D expenses and of course an insatiable appetite for profits. These things always cost and arm and a leg in here, too.
  - TrickyRick 2y ago
    Not to mention that this is paid by insurance in many countries which means there is little incentive for individuals to shop around.
    - bayindirh 2y ago
      It might be, but in my country, you buy them for the most occasions. I'm not aware if any insurance policy pays for them, even.
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by tzs 2y ago

hoistbypetard 2y ago

Thanks for posting this. I recognized the currency symbol but was confused by the "L".

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
The Indian numbering system marks odd power of ten, i.e. 10 ^ {1, 3, 5, 7}. Unit, thousand, lakh, crore [1]. Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system
- eru 2y ago
  > Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera. To make matters more confusing, for American English it goes millions, billions, trillions. For British English it used to go millions, milliards, billions, billiards, trillions, trilliards. (That 'long scale' is still the way German used to work ten years ago. No clue if it changed in the meantime.)
  - andreareina 2y ago
    I still mourn the long scale. A billion is obviously a million millions.
    - SushiHippie 2y ago
      Thanks! In germany we use the long scale, and this is the first time it clicks. "Eine Billion" is Million² bi -> 2 "Eine Billiarde" is 1000 * Million² "Eine Trillion" is million³ tri -> 3 "Eine Trilliarde" is 1000 * Million³ And so on Yes I knew what a million, milliard, billion, billiarde and so on are, but it never made click that the long scale makes so much sense.
      - lotsofpulp 2y ago
        I feel like at that point, I would rather just use scientific notation (10^x). I also like the easy suffix for thousand (k), million (M), billion (B), trillion (T), quadrillion (Q) for written conversation. $10B revenue, 5k liters, 300M people, etc.
        eru 2y ago
        Your 'suffixes' are a hodge-podge. Might as well stick with SI prefixes (like you are doing with the 'k' already?)
        lotsofpulp 2y ago
        It isn’t consistent, but a lot more people can fluently read “B” for billion rather than “G” giga and understand 10^9. The SI prefix “k” is sufficiently used that it is understood.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      It is less intuitive for me as an outsider that a trillion would be a million million millions instead of a billion billions
      - eru 2y ago
        Maybe, but either way is relatively quickly to learn by rote for the few orders of magnitude that come up in 'daily life'. For anything bigger, you'd use 'scientific' notation anyway.
  - Lio 2y ago
    Haven't we given up on our scale in the UK to match the US system? i.e. the milliard was replaced with the US billion.
    - Lalabadie 2y ago
      Anecdotally, a milliard in French is a billion in English.

greggsy 2y ago

I’m not across the scope of hearing aid technology, but what does the product at that upper tier actually look like, and how much does it cost in another country? I’m envisioning some highly specialised and tuned implant at that price.

bayindirh 2y ago
You generally get a custom mold for your ear canals and a specially tuned DSP for your frequency curves + BT connection to your phone for calls, at least. Your device can be retuned over and over as long as it functions, too. What drives the prices up is a multitude of factors: High end DSPs, micro speakers which can do good sound reproduction at required frequencies, relatively low sales volume, R&D expenses and of course an insatiable appetite for profits. These things always cost and arm and a leg in here, too.
- TrickyRick 2y ago
  Not to mention that this is paid by insurance in many countries which means there is little incentive for individuals to shop around.
  - bayindirh 2y ago
    It might be, but in my country, you buy them for the most occasions. I'm not aware if any insurance policy pays for them, even.

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