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Still, the “we’ll just have to see” deflection does leave open the possibility ordinary people can accept things much worse than his rhetoric. He didn’t use fe

Still, the “we’ll just have to see” deflection does leave open the possibility ordinary people can accept things much worse than his rhetoric. He didn’t use fear to its full potential in the last admin. This is the part of the stand-up routine where disloyal Republican lawmakers need an extrajudicial firing squad. See, the fear is now and still directed inward until he can purify the party.

anonzzzies 2y ago
It is all so familiar though... The 'we'll just have to see' is what everyone says now. They said that in different periods in history as well, until it was too late. Just wait and see is not what voting for a leader(s) should be about; you vote for policies and those policies might not pan out completely, however, the general gist should be there. Not spew so much random crap and then have people vote them in with a 'wait and see' attitude. Makes it somehow even worse.
- ttyprintk 2y ago
  But once you’ve seen the history, you are compelled to be a “this was not inevitable” person. Already, I’m seeing people deny that Project 2025 was organized and released last year by the Heritage Foundation. https://archive.org/details/project-2025-mandate-for-leadership-full_202309-manifesto https://archive.org/details/project-2025-mandate-for-leaders...
  - matwood 2y ago
    The misinformation is off the charts. Fear of losing democracy was a big exit poll issue, yet those voters broke towards Trump. The same person who incited an insurrection in 2020 and refused to accept the vote last time. Odd how until votes started coming in this time Trump was already crying about cheating.
    - anonzzzies 2y ago
      Musk did a lot there; he was the shouter with the most reach who said that we are voting to prevent democracy collapse. While Trump already hinted to intentions to collapse democracy (wether serious or not is not very relevant; he was going for president, so you would assume he is not joking really...).
      - ttyprintk 2y ago
        What I’m hearing, in a very rural area, is Trump supporters are hesitant to connect Elon on stage with Elon as treasury sec. They thought he was some Internet guy happy to just be on stage, rather than the richest man in the world presaging economic hardship (Nov 1). Musk doesn’t seem close enough to the movement for his rhetoric to be taken casually.
    - ttyprintk 2y ago
      We can put the hallucinatory vote tampering narrative to bed. Anyone concerned with it must now look across 2016, 2020, and 2024 or risk legitimacy.

anonzzzies 2y ago

It is all so familiar though... The 'we'll just have to see' is what everyone says now. They said that in different periods in history as well, until it was too late. Just wait and see is not what voting for a leader(s) should be about; you vote for policies and those policies might not pan out completely, however, the general gist should be there. Not spew so much random crap and then have people vote them in with a 'wait and see' attitude. Makes it somehow even worse.

ttyprintk 2y ago
But once you’ve seen the history, you are compelled to be a “this was not inevitable” person. Already, I’m seeing people deny that Project 2025 was organized and released last year by the Heritage Foundation. https://archive.org/details/project-2025-mandate-for-leadership-full_202309-manifesto https://archive.org/details/project-2025-mandate-for-leaders...
- matwood 2y ago
  The misinformation is off the charts. Fear of losing democracy was a big exit poll issue, yet those voters broke towards Trump. The same person who incited an insurrection in 2020 and refused to accept the vote last time. Odd how until votes started coming in this time Trump was already crying about cheating.
  - anonzzzies 2y ago
    Musk did a lot there; he was the shouter with the most reach who said that we are voting to prevent democracy collapse. While Trump already hinted to intentions to collapse democracy (wether serious or not is not very relevant; he was going for president, so you would assume he is not joking really...).
    - ttyprintk 2y ago
      What I’m hearing, in a very rural area, is Trump supporters are hesitant to connect Elon on stage with Elon as treasury sec. They thought he was some Internet guy happy to just be on stage, rather than the richest man in the world presaging economic hardship (Nov 1). Musk doesn’t seem close enough to the movement for his rhetoric to be taken casually.
  - ttyprintk 2y ago
    We can put the hallucinatory vote tampering narrative to bed. Anyone concerned with it must now look across 2016, 2020, and 2024 or risk legitimacy.