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A little bit tangent, and I'm definitely looking at it from rose colored glasses... but been playing with it for the 30 minutes, and most of the videos look so

A little bit tangent, and I'm definitely looking at it from rose colored glasses... but been playing with it for the 30 minutes, and most of the videos look so real? Like when you go on TikTok / Instagram nowadays, there are obviously unlimited amount of content. But there's this sense of everything being edited multiple times, people trying to create their own "brand", nothing looking real. It's a shame how we over-financialized everything and sucked out the fun. Or maybe I just got old. Side note, I'll also recommend people to look up "X city in 1990s / 2000s" on YouTube. San Francisco, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Toronto, London and etc. have cool slice of life content from people who were very into camcorders.

andai 2y ago
I see parallels with this and RuneScape. Now it's all about efficiently grinding stats or flipping stuff on the exchange. Back in the day it was all about trimming armor and buying gf.
- durumu 2y ago
  I think that has more to do with being a kid vs being an adult. Kids are probably still buying gfs on Roblox and Minecraft today (disclaimer: I have no idea what kids play these days lol)
  - account42 2y ago
    It's intelectually lazy to dismiss any concern about societal change as "you have just gotten old".
epcoa 2y ago
> I'm definitely looking at it from rose colored glasses It's not rose tinted glasses, it's just a poor comparison. The absolute vast majority of these videos have double digit if not any views. You're seeking them out, using a little quirk of naming and the poster's DGAFism. There is no pretense of promotion to a large audience or virality. Anything spoonfed you on a Tiktok or Instagram feed could not be more different. The default Youtube experience is the same as mass Tiktok. Moreover you can find plenty of similar material like this on Instagram and Tiktok if you go looking for it, that is after all what most people are using it for, bumming around with their friends. The algorithm isn't going to spoonfeed this to you, and obviously Youtube never did either.
- durumu 2y ago
  I believe Reddit in particular actually has gotten much more optimized in the past 15 years. I don't think this is rose colored glasses, the content really is much more engaging and addictive, with more short form videos and content that can be understood immediately at a glance.
  - epcoa 2y ago
    This may be so, but I don’t know how it counters the fact that there is more essentially unwatched and obscure content produced on these platforms than ever. And it's not like this particular content was once popular in the "good old days", the view counts are literally 0 in some cases.
2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
2:30am at a 7-11 near Disney World - 1987 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA
- thedrexster 2y ago
  The smoking is the most shocking part to me!
- beowulfey 2y ago
  was about to post this myself. such a great example of this
- kawsper 2y ago
  There's a 2014 update to that video made by the same people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8n11y2lxrE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8n11y2lxrE
mprast 2y ago
I was on tiktok in 2019/2020 and for a brief period it was just ordinary users messing around and posting whatever they felt like. No tiktok shop, very few ads or thinkpieces, nobody was trying to build an audience. A lot weirder and a lot more fun
- abixb 2y ago
  Commercialization and infiltration of advertising-dollars-seeking "influencers" ruins social media sites. I miss the early days of the internet (and especially YouTube) so fucking much. I'm 28 now, and I've been online since 2009. I think 2009-2014 was the GOLDEN AGE of the internet for me, especially on YouTube.
  - mprast 2y ago
    yeah agreed. I don't think Cory Doctorow is right about everything but I think he was dead on with enshittification
  - antod 2y ago
    I'm old enough to have seen multiple golden ages / phases of the internet and was thinking about pointing out every era has one based on your age. But then again, I kinda suspect there's some deeper truth going on where your mentioned golden age might be one of the last though?
    - abixb 2y ago
      Yeah, the ubiquity of smartphones and the rise of Facebook and Instagram (post-acquisition) as an open platform for advertisers versus mostly for early adopters/enthusiasts really killed the "fun" of the internet. Also, I remember how many different frameworks and "rich internet application" technologies existed back then (Adobe Flash, Microsoft Silverlight, Apple QuickTime, etc.). In many ways, the internet was a much more diverse and a much more 'unpredictable' place back then.
      - eCa 2y ago
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cdchn 2y ago
I think a big part of it is that this search doesn't involve "the algorithm" at all. There is no recommendation engine here, what you search for by pure ID is nothing but the unfiltered schism of what people record with their phones and unpretentiously/accidentally click "Upload" with no hope of clout chasing or really even a bare inkling that anybody might actually WATCH what they recorded.
dlisboa 2y ago
There's definitely a lack of authenticity these days. I was on the park the other day and there were these two dudes and one was filming the other walking and talking to the camera. They'd look at the shot and then he'd walk back and do it again and again. Multiple times. I've also seen people talking regularly to their friends and then suddenly go into "influencer mode" and yell "tell us what you think in the comments! :kissy_face:" then go back to regular talk like nothing happened. The word "cringey" is overused but it feels like such an inhuman behaviour and so weird to see live. Like the person just suddenly got possessed by some entity other than themselves.
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andai 2y ago

I see parallels with this and RuneScape. Now it's all about efficiently grinding stats or flipping stuff on the exchange. Back in the day it was all about trimming armor and buying gf.

durumu 2y ago
I think that has more to do with being a kid vs being an adult. Kids are probably still buying gfs on Roblox and Minecraft today (disclaimer: I have no idea what kids play these days lol)
- account42 2y ago
  It's intelectually lazy to dismiss any concern about societal change as "you have just gotten old".

epcoa 2y ago

> I'm definitely looking at it from rose colored glasses It's not rose tinted glasses, it's just a poor comparison. The absolute vast majority of these videos have double digit if not any views. You're seeking them out, using a little quirk of naming and the poster's DGAFism. There is no pretense of promotion to a large audience or virality. Anything spoonfed you on a Tiktok or Instagram feed could not be more different. The default Youtube experience is the same as mass Tiktok. Moreover you can find plenty of similar material like this on Instagram and Tiktok if you go looking for it, that is after all what most people are using it for, bumming around with their friends. The algorithm isn't going to spoonfeed this to you, and obviously Youtube never did either.

durumu 2y ago
I believe Reddit in particular actually has gotten much more optimized in the past 15 years. I don't think this is rose colored glasses, the content really is much more engaging and addictive, with more short form videos and content that can be understood immediately at a glance.
- epcoa 2y ago
  This may be so, but I don’t know how it counters the fact that there is more essentially unwatched and obscure content produced on these platforms than ever. And it's not like this particular content was once popular in the "good old days", the view counts are literally 0 in some cases.

2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago

2:30am at a 7-11 near Disney World - 1987 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA

thedrexster 2y ago
The smoking is the most shocking part to me!
beowulfey 2y ago
was about to post this myself. such a great example of this
kawsper 2y ago
There's a 2014 update to that video made by the same people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8n11y2lxrE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8n11y2lxrE

mprast 2y ago

I was on tiktok in 2019/2020 and for a brief period it was just ordinary users messing around and posting whatever they felt like. No tiktok shop, very few ads or thinkpieces, nobody was trying to build an audience. A lot weirder and a lot more fun

abixb 2y ago
Commercialization and infiltration of advertising-dollars-seeking "influencers" ruins social media sites. I miss the early days of the internet (and especially YouTube) so fucking much. I'm 28 now, and I've been online since 2009. I think 2009-2014 was the GOLDEN AGE of the internet for me, especially on YouTube.
- mprast 2y ago
  yeah agreed. I don't think Cory Doctorow is right about everything but I think he was dead on with enshittification
- antod 2y ago
  I'm old enough to have seen multiple golden ages / phases of the internet and was thinking about pointing out every era has one based on your age. But then again, I kinda suspect there's some deeper truth going on where your mentioned golden age might be one of the last though?
  - abixb 2y ago
    Yeah, the ubiquity of smartphones and the rise of Facebook and Instagram (post-acquisition) as an open platform for advertisers versus mostly for early adopters/enthusiasts really killed the "fun" of the internet. Also, I remember how many different frameworks and "rich internet application" technologies existed back then (Adobe Flash, Microsoft Silverlight, Apple QuickTime, etc.). In many ways, the internet was a much more diverse and a much more 'unpredictable' place back then.
    - eCa 2y ago

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cdchn 2y ago

I think a big part of it is that this search doesn't involve "the algorithm" at all. There is no recommendation engine here, what you search for by pure ID is nothing but the unfiltered schism of what people record with their phones and unpretentiously/accidentally click "Upload" with no hope of clout chasing or really even a bare inkling that anybody might actually WATCH what they recorded.

dlisboa 2y ago

There's definitely a lack of authenticity these days. I was on the park the other day and there were these two dudes and one was filming the other walking and talking to the camera. They'd look at the shot and then he'd walk back and do it again and again. Multiple times. I've also seen people talking regularly to their friends and then suddenly go into "influencer mode" and yell "tell us what you think in the comments! :kissy_face:" then go back to regular talk like nothing happened. The word "cringey" is overused but it feels like such an inhuman behaviour and so weird to see live. Like the person just suddenly got possessed by some entity other than themselves.

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