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Are you really? Ever heard the line “dog is a man’s best friend”? Or seen that Jon Wick movie?

by kyleee 2y ago

tolerance 2y ago
I reckon that once the police start trying to frame a man for the imaginary murder of his own father, threatening to actually kill his dog sounds like the most drab of offenses Especially on account of that coming into play later.
- pdpi 2y ago
  Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”. It’s intellectually lazy on their part to jump to that conclusion without any sort of due diligence, but it’s not necessarily evil per se. Threatening to kill the dog is just plain cruel.
  - tolerance 2y ago
    I’ll try to keep this in mind in case you and I cross paths while I have the upper hand and I happen to be feeling an intellectually lazy sort of way. Whatever happens shouldn’t be attributed to malice. I won’t hurt your pets. My superiors ought to award me for it. I was just being stupid.
  - ClumsyPilot 2y ago
    > Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”. This is not a valid activity. Either you have proof or you don’t. A proper hardened criminal will never confess. If you have a confession, it’s >70% chance for perversion of justice: A terrorist will confess because they want fame In Russia you pay someone to ‘confess’ for your crime and go to prison instead of you. The naive, mentally infirm will confess, often to things they didn’t do. Or you managed to torture a confession out of someone, like they did here. Confessions lead straight to Spanish Inquisition type of justice
kybernetikos 2y ago
The reason John Wick did that is because "man murders hundreds of people, but its ok for us to admire him for it because they deserved it because they killed his wife /girlfriend" is entirely overdone. People do of course care about their pets, but John Wick used the death of a pet as its instigating event because it was different, not because it was a remotely usual way to respond to a pets death.

Are you really? Ever heard the line “dog is a man’s best friend”? Or seen that Jon Wick movie?

by kyleee 2y ago

Are you really? Ever heard the line “dog is a man’s best friend”? Or seen that Jon Wick movie?

I reckon that once the police start trying to frame a man for the imaginary murder of his own father, threatening to actually kill his dog sounds like the most drab of offenses Especially on account of that coming into play later.

pdpi 2y ago
Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”. It’s intellectually lazy on their part to jump to that conclusion without any sort of due diligence, but it’s not necessarily evil per se. Threatening to kill the dog is just plain cruel.
- tolerance 2y ago
  I’ll try to keep this in mind in case you and I cross paths while I have the upper hand and I happen to be feeling an intellectually lazy sort of way. Whatever happens shouldn’t be attributed to malice. I won’t hurt your pets. My superiors ought to award me for it. I was just being stupid.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago
  > Your “trying to frame a man” is their “trying to get him to confess to something he did”. This is not a valid activity. Either you have proof or you don’t. A proper hardened criminal will never confess. If you have a confession, it’s >70% chance for perversion of justice: A terrorist will confess because they want fame In Russia you pay someone to ‘confess’ for your crime and go to prison instead of you. The naive, mentally infirm will confess, often to things they didn’t do. Or you managed to torture a confession out of someone, like they did here. Confessions lead straight to Spanish Inquisition type of justice

kybernetikos 2y ago

The reason John Wick did that is because "man murders hundreds of people, but its ok for us to admire him for it because they deserved it because they killed his wife /girlfriend" is entirely overdone. People do of course care about their pets, but John Wick used the death of a pet as its instigating event because it was different, not because it was a remotely usual way to respond to a pets death.