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GASP, exercise is good!? No way. The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. Particularly the latter. There's constantly about 49 other things that

by n0id34 2y ago

GASP, exercise is good!? No way. The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. Particularly the latter. There's constantly about 49 other things that feel like they need doing more than purposely exercising and wearing myself out even more than I'm already worn out.

TuringTourist 2y ago
possibly counter to intuition, I find that since I have started to religiously use my stationary bike in the morning, I have a lot more energy for the day, not less. I suppose if you're butting up against caloric/nutrient limits you might suffer. I personally find exercise clarifies my thoughts and improves my mood, even if its the last thing I want to do when I do it.
- deberon 2y ago
  The mind-body connection is quite real. Improving your physical state will almost certainly have a non-zero improvement on your mental state. Exercising can really help you make sense of all those other things you have going on. Not to mention that being in shape and strong makes every physical thing you do easier.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
Figure out how to get entertainment in the form of audio, like Youtube debates or audiobooks, so then exercise is simply multitasking.
- nox101 2y ago
  Youtube debates sound like a way to raise blood pressure immensely
  - bluGill 2y ago
    There is trump vs harris; or vi vs emacs. One will raise blood pressure more than the other.
    - BeetleB 2y ago
      Especially when you discover that Trump uses Emacs, and Harris uses vi. No wonder she lost the election. Trump simply typed M-x win-election.
- criddell 2y ago
  I'd recommend trying without the entertainment too. Boredom can be good, letting your mind wander can be fun, or simply focusing on the current task and your body's experience can improve the experience.
barbs 2y ago
If you live in an area with decent infrastructure, cycling to and from work is a great way to get exercise in without sacrificing much time (in some cases you even save time)
- Gigachad 2y ago
  It actually shocks me that someone could manage to regularly go a day without even exercising for 5 minutes. The car centric lifestyle seems like such a prison.
littlekey 2y ago
>The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. Motivation certainly, but if we accept the results of the study, you really don't think you can find 5 minutes of time in your day to walk up some stairs or do some jump rope?
dvsfish 2y ago
The greatest misconception about exercise is this "if you're tired your best course of action would be to abstain from the thing that will make you more tired" train of thought. Exercise doesn't always work like this. Yes you'll have bad days, but you'll find yourself more energised most of the time and mentally more at peace. Thinking it will make you more tired can often be just a preconception. It's like that classic sedentary worker ailment of the sore back. Many people take this as a sign to rest more, but these types of issues are often caused by weak musculature and the best thing to do is start resistance training. Obviously not a blanket solution, but one that definitely seems overlooked.
- seadan83 2y ago
  > best thing to do is start resistance training. Doing so very carefully! I will agree though. Before going on a long cross-state bike trip, I had some back issues and was cramming in work (too much sitting). I went out with lower back pain, resolved itself after a few days of riding for most of the day. I very much agree that counter-intuitive behavior is often what is called for. The exercise or sedentary habits are habits. They really become normal one way or the other quite quickly.
- BeetleB 2y ago
  > Exercise doesn't always work like this. Yes you'll have bad days, but you'll find yourself more energised most of the time and mentally more at peace. Is there anything that will convince you this isn't true for all (perhaps not even most) people? The right type of exercise matters. I've often gone on bouts of cardio on a treadmill for months at a time (multiple times a week - at least 30 minutes each session). It never ceased to suck. I can do a hike and never feel bad. But a treadmill or cycling device? Always feels bad. I hope it benefits me in the long run, because it definitely reduces the quality of life on days I do it. My only real hope is to find some other kind of cardio that doesn't annoy as much.
  - seanmcdirmid 2y ago
    BeatSaber maybe? Something addictive is better even if it is less effective. I also do FitXR, which is more effective, but requires more of a grinding mindset so I often mix it with BeatSaber, which doesn’t grind. I would experiment at least, there are things. A good instructor in an aerobics class can also help, although I find that too hit or miss to be sustainable.
gcanyon 2y ago
> The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. As I've said here several times: the best exercise is the one you'll stick with over the long haul. Put another way: anything you'll still be doing in 2026 is better than anything else you'll quit before next Memorial Day.
- seadan83 2y ago
  Agree. Anything that is done over the course of one week or one month is pretty meaningless. When starting training, the only thing a person needs to do is to do anything. Just get out there, build consistency. That is the very first goal. Timings, intervals, HR monitor, those are all well past the point of consistency. The other side of the coin, the accumulation of training/activity over long time is what matters. Those that work on larger projects learn this, some things you can't just cram the night before. It requires hundreds of hours of sedentary or active living, hundreds of meals, for effects of a good or a bad diet (or active/sedentary lifestyle) to be realized.

by n0id34 2y ago

TuringTourist 2y ago

possibly counter to intuition, I find that since I have started to religiously use my stationary bike in the morning, I have a lot more energy for the day, not less. I suppose if you're butting up against caloric/nutrient limits you might suffer. I personally find exercise clarifies my thoughts and improves my mood, even if its the last thing I want to do when I do it.

deberon 2y ago
The mind-body connection is quite real. Improving your physical state will almost certainly have a non-zero improvement on your mental state. Exercising can really help you make sense of all those other things you have going on. Not to mention that being in shape and strong makes every physical thing you do easier.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

Figure out how to get entertainment in the form of audio, like Youtube debates or audiobooks, so then exercise is simply multitasking.

nox101 2y ago
Youtube debates sound like a way to raise blood pressure immensely
- bluGill 2y ago
  There is trump vs harris; or vi vs emacs. One will raise blood pressure more than the other.
  - BeetleB 2y ago
    Especially when you discover that Trump uses Emacs, and Harris uses vi. No wonder she lost the election. Trump simply typed M-x win-election.
criddell 2y ago
I'd recommend trying without the entertainment too. Boredom can be good, letting your mind wander can be fun, or simply focusing on the current task and your body's experience can improve the experience.

barbs 2y ago

If you live in an area with decent infrastructure, cycling to and from work is a great way to get exercise in without sacrificing much time (in some cases you even save time)

Gigachad 2y ago
It actually shocks me that someone could manage to regularly go a day without even exercising for 5 minutes. The car centric lifestyle seems like such a prison.

littlekey 2y ago

>The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. Motivation certainly, but if we accept the results of the study, you really don't think you can find 5 minutes of time in your day to walk up some stairs or do some jump rope?

dvsfish 2y ago

The greatest misconception about exercise is this "if you're tired your best course of action would be to abstain from the thing that will make you more tired" train of thought. Exercise doesn't always work like this. Yes you'll have bad days, but you'll find yourself more energised most of the time and mentally more at peace. Thinking it will make you more tired can often be just a preconception. It's like that classic sedentary worker ailment of the sore back. Many people take this as a sign to rest more, but these types of issues are often caused by weak musculature and the best thing to do is start resistance training. Obviously not a blanket solution, but one that definitely seems overlooked.

seadan83 2y ago
> best thing to do is start resistance training. Doing so very carefully! I will agree though. Before going on a long cross-state bike trip, I had some back issues and was cramming in work (too much sitting). I went out with lower back pain, resolved itself after a few days of riding for most of the day. I very much agree that counter-intuitive behavior is often what is called for. The exercise or sedentary habits are habits. They really become normal one way or the other quite quickly.
BeetleB 2y ago
> Exercise doesn't always work like this. Yes you'll have bad days, but you'll find yourself more energised most of the time and mentally more at peace. Is there anything that will convince you this isn't true for all (perhaps not even most) people? The right type of exercise matters. I've often gone on bouts of cardio on a treadmill for months at a time (multiple times a week - at least 30 minutes each session). It never ceased to suck. I can do a hike and never feel bad. But a treadmill or cycling device? Always feels bad. I hope it benefits me in the long run, because it definitely reduces the quality of life on days I do it. My only real hope is to find some other kind of cardio that doesn't annoy as much.
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  BeatSaber maybe? Something addictive is better even if it is less effective. I also do FitXR, which is more effective, but requires more of a grinding mindset so I often mix it with BeatSaber, which doesn’t grind. I would experiment at least, there are things. A good instructor in an aerobics class can also help, although I find that too hit or miss to be sustainable.

gcanyon 2y ago

> The hard part is finding time and having the motivation. As I've said here several times: the best exercise is the one you'll stick with over the long haul. Put another way: anything you'll still be doing in 2026 is better than anything else you'll quit before next Memorial Day.

seadan83 2y ago
Agree. Anything that is done over the course of one week or one month is pretty meaningless. When starting training, the only thing a person needs to do is to do anything. Just get out there, build consistency. That is the very first goal. Timings, intervals, HR monitor, those are all well past the point of consistency. The other side of the coin, the accumulation of training/activity over long time is what matters. Those that work on larger projects learn this, some things you can't just cram the night before. It requires hundreds of hours of sedentary or active living, hundreds of meals, for effects of a good or a bad diet (or active/sedentary lifestyle) to be realized.