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Curious how this is going to play out over the next 18 months.

by cduzz 2y ago

mikeyouse 2y ago
Very, very poorly based on the likely direction of the CDC and general ID apparatus.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
  Man, I do not want to pick up immediately where we left off last time.
  - mikeyouse 2y ago
    There's slight solace in that bird flus are much worse as pandemic viruses compared to coronaviruses -- but then again, unmonitored, uncontrolled spillovers are an excellent way to build a highly virulent strain. Also, there's one dipshit who's likely to be involved and is advocating for more raw milk and less regulation around pasteurization and you'll never guess where you might find an excellent vector for bird flu transmission to humans from dairy cow populations..
  - Fomite 2y ago
    If it helps, we won't. Everyone who works in public health is already exhausted. Many of the things put in place during the last pandemic are either already dismantled when COVID money got clawed back in reconciliation a year or so back, or is zeroed out in the next Republican budget. Any public willingness to engage in widespread nonpharmaceutical interventions is effectively gone. Anti-vaccine sentiment is quite high right now. We'll pick up in a worse place.
    - totallydang 2y ago
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    - marcosdumay 2y ago
      Does the US have masks in storage? Because I know my country has more respirators now, but I have no idea about masks. And gloves! Talk about gloves... they only became available for sale again close to 2021. Around here they are already hard to find (no idea why).
      - Fomite 2y ago
        Some places do, some don't. One of the other aftermaths of COVID-19 is that the assumption that there will be a timely federal response to a major public health emergency isn't one to be relied on.
    - phtrivier 2y ago
      History will rhyme, but not repeat. For all we know, we might end up with RFK Jr. mandating flu shots among meat workers to keep the burgers flowing. (Just kidding. It would be a bloodbath. But then again : Vox Pensylvani, Vox Dei...)
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  - NeutralCrane 2y ago
    At a minimum, we already have a viable vaccine for this, and last I heard the US was building up an initial stockpile, while one of the Nordic countries was preemptively vaccinating dairy workers.
    - perihelions 2y ago
      That would be Finland, https://yle.fi/a/74-20093967 https://yle.fi/a/74-20093967

Curious how this is going to play out over the next 18 months.

by cduzz 2y ago

Curious how this is going to play out over the next 18 months.

mikeyouse 2y ago

Very, very poorly based on the likely direction of the CDC and general ID apparatus.

SketchySeaBeast 2y ago
Man, I do not want to pick up immediately where we left off last time.
- mikeyouse 2y ago
  There's slight solace in that bird flus are much worse as pandemic viruses compared to coronaviruses -- but then again, unmonitored, uncontrolled spillovers are an excellent way to build a highly virulent strain. Also, there's one dipshit who's likely to be involved and is advocating for more raw milk and less regulation around pasteurization and you'll never guess where you might find an excellent vector for bird flu transmission to humans from dairy cow populations..
- Fomite 2y ago
  If it helps, we won't. Everyone who works in public health is already exhausted. Many of the things put in place during the last pandemic are either already dismantled when COVID money got clawed back in reconciliation a year or so back, or is zeroed out in the next Republican budget. Any public willingness to engage in widespread nonpharmaceutical interventions is effectively gone. Anti-vaccine sentiment is quite high right now. We'll pick up in a worse place.
  - totallydang 2y ago
    [flagged]
  - marcosdumay 2y ago
    Does the US have masks in storage? Because I know my country has more respirators now, but I have no idea about masks. And gloves! Talk about gloves... they only became available for sale again close to 2021. Around here they are already hard to find (no idea why).
    - Fomite 2y ago
      Some places do, some don't. One of the other aftermaths of COVID-19 is that the assumption that there will be a timely federal response to a major public health emergency isn't one to be relied on.
  - phtrivier 2y ago
    History will rhyme, but not repeat. For all we know, we might end up with RFK Jr. mandating flu shots among meat workers to keep the burgers flowing. (Just kidding. It would be a bloodbath. But then again : Vox Pensylvani, Vox Dei...)
  - deleted 2y ago
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- NeutralCrane 2y ago
  At a minimum, we already have a viable vaccine for this, and last I heard the US was building up an initial stockpile, while one of the Nordic countries was preemptively vaccinating dairy workers.
  - perihelions 2y ago
    That would be Finland, https://yle.fi/a/74-20093967 https://yle.fi/a/74-20093967