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> They're shoving AI everywhere because it's extraordinarily powerful and truly differentiating. How does this explain the fact that people don't want AI. Just

> They're shoving AI everywhere because it's extraordinarily powerful and truly differentiating. How does this explain the fact that people don't want AI. Just having AI in your product description makes people hate your product (https://www.techspot.com/news/104122-study-finds-including-ai-product-descriptions-makes-them.html https://www.techspot.com/news/104122-study-finds-including-a...) As soon as AI is added to anything people immediately start googling how to disable it (including when google added AI)

llm_nerd 2y ago
>Just having AI in your product description makes people hate your product They compare "AI" to "New Technology", and there was a mild preference for the phrase "New Technology". Casting that as "hating" it is a bit of a misrepresentation. Further "AI" as a general term is mysterious and unknown. One of their examples was an "AI-Powered TV"...like, what does that even mean? Or an "AI-powered financial service". They sound terrible. >As soon as AI is added to anything people immediately start googling how to disable it Okay? Some people dislike almost everything new or different. Most people don't. If every major company is busy trying to get in front of AI, maybe it isn't quite the big "makes everyone hate it!" thing you imagine it is, no?
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  It's a 15% reduction on intention to buy (on the TV case, 20% on the car) just by putting AI there on the name is a really big deal. That's about half of the deviation on the data. The ugly is that it's a self-reported poll, but it's a well run self-reported poll, with a large effect, and good statistical relevance. The actual article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19368623.2024.2368040#d1e606 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19368623.2024.2...
  - llm_nerd 2y ago
    Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Has someone told them? Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Putting an amorphous "AI-powered" on an imaginary product is nonsensical, and doesn't carry over to the conclusion that "people hate AI". Yes, I would be wary of a "AI-powered coffee maker" or an "AI-powered toothbrush" because that just sounds like nonsense. But there are a lot of places where people already understand the value proposition, and the more people experience it, the more they demand it and it becomes entry stakes. Just the most trivial example: one of my children has a habit of sending thoughts as a long series of texts. One thought split over a dozen texts. The "AI-powered" summarization of notifications in iOS 18.2 is absolutely brilliant for those times I can only glance, looking at it in detail when the situation avails. Thus far it has been 100% accurate and profoundly useful. That's the most tosser, simplistic example of many, many ways AI has added to my life.
    - marcosdumay 2y ago
      Funny, people are talking about how Apple is having issues with their newest models. I didn't bother to find the data, though.
    - autoexec 2y ago
      > Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-dont-want-ai-as-apple-intelligence-debuts/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-don... > Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble because they've poured obscene amounts of money into AI and it really hasn't turned into anything people really want. They keep forcing AI at people in every product they can because they're hoping that eventually something will stick and people will fawn over it, but so far people just haven't found AI to be all that useful, they don't trust it (https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/06/05/in-ai-we-do-not-trust-survey/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/06/05/in-ai-w...) and they have privacy concerns (with good reason). It's great that you've found it useful. I know a few people who get some value out of it, even if only as a toy, but there's no killer app for AI certainly nothing that justifies the insane costs that went into it. Most of the time it's just getting in people's way and it's largely been ignored by the public (https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-intelligence/artificial-intelligence-impact-usage-interest-study-9358561/ https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-inte...)
      - llm_nerd 2y ago
        >Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI No True Scotsman all over here. Where people embrace and adopt AI, it isn't real. But a million incredibly dumb sociology surveys of nebulous, imaginary things are super convincing. >Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble Literally none of them are "in trouble". I mean, Google has kind of underperformed and is behind the ball, but absolutely none of them have retreated at all. Seriously, this whole discussion is hilarious. Every single major company is dumping enormous efforts into AI, redoubling and redoubling again their commitment based upon market analysis and what they've seen. If you counter this by pointing at some asinine college survey of fantasy products with absurd titles, you might be deluding yourself.

llm_nerd 2y ago

>Just having AI in your product description makes people hate your product They compare "AI" to "New Technology", and there was a mild preference for the phrase "New Technology". Casting that as "hating" it is a bit of a misrepresentation. Further "AI" as a general term is mysterious and unknown. One of their examples was an "AI-Powered TV"...like, what does that even mean? Or an "AI-powered financial service". They sound terrible. >As soon as AI is added to anything people immediately start googling how to disable it Okay? Some people dislike almost everything new or different. Most people don't. If every major company is busy trying to get in front of AI, maybe it isn't quite the big "makes everyone hate it!" thing you imagine it is, no?

marcosdumay 2y ago
It's a 15% reduction on intention to buy (on the TV case, 20% on the car) just by putting AI there on the name is a really big deal. That's about half of the deviation on the data. The ugly is that it's a self-reported poll, but it's a well run self-reported poll, with a large effect, and good statistical relevance. The actual article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19368623.2024.2368040#d1e606 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19368623.2024.2...
- llm_nerd 2y ago
  Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Has someone told them? Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Putting an amorphous "AI-powered" on an imaginary product is nonsensical, and doesn't carry over to the conclusion that "people hate AI". Yes, I would be wary of a "AI-powered coffee maker" or an "AI-powered toothbrush" because that just sounds like nonsense. But there are a lot of places where people already understand the value proposition, and the more people experience it, the more they demand it and it becomes entry stakes. Just the most trivial example: one of my children has a habit of sending thoughts as a long series of texts. One thought split over a dozen texts. The "AI-powered" summarization of notifications in iOS 18.2 is absolutely brilliant for those times I can only glance, looking at it in detail when the situation avails. Thus far it has been 100% accurate and profoundly useful. That's the most tosser, simplistic example of many, many ways AI has added to my life.
  - marcosdumay 2y ago
    Funny, people are talking about how Apple is having issues with their newest models. I didn't bother to find the data, though.
  - autoexec 2y ago
    > Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-dont-want-ai-as-apple-intelligence-debuts/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-don... > Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble because they've poured obscene amounts of money into AI and it really hasn't turned into anything people really want. They keep forcing AI at people in every product they can because they're hoping that eventually something will stick and people will fawn over it, but so far people just haven't found AI to be all that useful, they don't trust it (https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/06/05/in-ai-we-do-not-trust-survey/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/06/05/in-ai-w...) and they have privacy concerns (with good reason). It's great that you've found it useful. I know a few people who get some value out of it, even if only as a toy, but there's no killer app for AI certainly nothing that justifies the insane costs that went into it. Most of the time it's just getting in people's way and it's largely been ignored by the public (https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-intelligence/artificial-intelligence-impact-usage-interest-study-9358561/ https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-inte...)
    - llm_nerd 2y ago
      >Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI No True Scotsman all over here. Where people embrace and adopt AI, it isn't real. But a million incredibly dumb sociology surveys of nebulous, imaginary things are super convincing. >Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble Literally none of them are "in trouble". I mean, Google has kind of underperformed and is behind the ball, but absolutely none of them have retreated at all. Seriously, this whole discussion is hilarious. Every single major company is dumping enormous efforts into AI, redoubling and redoubling again their commitment based upon market analysis and what they've seen. If you counter this by pointing at some asinine college survey of fantasy products with absurd titles, you might be deluding yourself.