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Yup. He lied for months about forced operations in schools (seriously?!). And immigration is the lowest it's been since Biden took office after Trump botched th

Yup. He lied for months about forced operations in schools (seriously?!). And immigration is the lowest it's been since Biden took office after Trump botched the pandemic response and no one wanted to come here. If Trump follows through on his promises, the US will be in bad shape.

cyberax 2y ago
> If Trump follows through on his promises, the US will be in bad shape. Might be a good learning experience for the Red states. One huge issue in the US politics is that the Red states are largely insulated from the consequences of their decisions by the Federal budget transfers. Nearly all deep Red states are net receivers of the Federal funds, especially when Medicare/SS are taken into account. All that culture war nonsense, CHIPS act, and so on do not make any tangible difference for a voter in Alabama. All these amount to peanuts compared with the overall Federal spending. Trump is poised to seriously change this.
- systemBuilder 2y ago
  Red States are the biggest leaches off the federal government. Out of the top-10 states that take in more subsidies than they pay out in taxes, only 2 are blue states, 8 are red states! The Red States never learn because the social welfare programs from the Democrats coddle them ...
- badrequest 2y ago
  Bold of you to think the red states are capable of learning.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    Oh, they will. Culture wars only go so far when your wallet is _truly_ affected.
    - immibis 2y ago
      Wasn't that the alleged reason for continued escalations in Germany in the 40s?
      - cyberax 2y ago
        Not really. Hitler got entrenched in power because his economic policies _worked_ in 1930-s. They were broadly Keynesian: state spending to stimulate infrastructure (for the military) and manufacturing (also mostly military). This led to economic growth that people really felt in their wallets: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Economic_development_of_Germany_1930-1950.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Economic_development... And so it resulted in a huge upswing in Nazi support, enabling Hitler to stay in power. People really _loved_ him. This doesn't work all that well backwards. If peoples' lives keep getting materially worse, it's hard to keep blaming it on "the others".
  - burnte 2y ago
    Everyone learns when they're punched in the face. The question is what less will be taught? So far he's been able to tell them everything is someone else's fault, but when he's in the driver's seat, who will he blame? And will they believe him?
- jonny_eh 2y ago
  > Might be a good learning experience for the Red states. There's been plenty of opportunities to learn, facts don't matter apparently.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    The most recent opportunity was 20 years ago when the housing market crashed. It did work, Democrats got 60 seats in the Senate. Nothing since that time has really affected the Red states fiscally.
- xnx 2y ago
  > Trump is poised to seriously change this. Couldn't a Trump administration rework the distribution of funds so that states that voted for him got even more money, and states that didn't got none?

cyberax 2y ago

> If Trump follows through on his promises, the US will be in bad shape. Might be a good learning experience for the Red states. One huge issue in the US politics is that the Red states are largely insulated from the consequences of their decisions by the Federal budget transfers. Nearly all deep Red states are net receivers of the Federal funds, especially when Medicare/SS are taken into account. All that culture war nonsense, CHIPS act, and so on do not make any tangible difference for a voter in Alabama. All these amount to peanuts compared with the overall Federal spending. Trump is poised to seriously change this.

systemBuilder 2y ago
Red States are the biggest leaches off the federal government. Out of the top-10 states that take in more subsidies than they pay out in taxes, only 2 are blue states, 8 are red states! The Red States never learn because the social welfare programs from the Democrats coddle them ...
badrequest 2y ago
Bold of you to think the red states are capable of learning.
- cyberax 2y ago
  Oh, they will. Culture wars only go so far when your wallet is _truly_ affected.
  - immibis 2y ago
    Wasn't that the alleged reason for continued escalations in Germany in the 40s?
    - cyberax 2y ago
      Not really. Hitler got entrenched in power because his economic policies _worked_ in 1930-s. They were broadly Keynesian: state spending to stimulate infrastructure (for the military) and manufacturing (also mostly military). This led to economic growth that people really felt in their wallets: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Economic_development_of_Germany_1930-1950.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Economic_development... And so it resulted in a huge upswing in Nazi support, enabling Hitler to stay in power. People really _loved_ him. This doesn't work all that well backwards. If peoples' lives keep getting materially worse, it's hard to keep blaming it on "the others".
- burnte 2y ago
  Everyone learns when they're punched in the face. The question is what less will be taught? So far he's been able to tell them everything is someone else's fault, but when he's in the driver's seat, who will he blame? And will they believe him?
jonny_eh 2y ago
> Might be a good learning experience for the Red states. There's been plenty of opportunities to learn, facts don't matter apparently.
- cyberax 2y ago
  The most recent opportunity was 20 years ago when the housing market crashed. It did work, Democrats got 60 seats in the Senate. Nothing since that time has really affected the Red states fiscally.
xnx 2y ago
> Trump is poised to seriously change this. Couldn't a Trump administration rework the distribution of funds so that states that voted for him got even more money, and states that didn't got none?