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Just a reminder that not all votes have been counted yet.

by lavezzi 2y ago

Andrew_nenakhov 2y ago
Yeah, if we talk about it, counting votes for days/weeks, and no ID laws are ridiculous.
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  Counting for days is ok. Having fights about it for a week or two is also ok. None of those break anything. The no ID culture and everything around it... I honestly can't understand it.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 2y ago
    Counting for days is not OK. To ensure fair counting you need to have poll watchers from all interested parties present during voting and counting, and it is difficult to be present over 96 hours period - people need to sleep, and they can't observe the ballots repository or counting while they sleep. There is no reason why all ballots can't be counted it a few hours. If more people are needed to do it, then so be it.
- bcrosby95 2y ago
  Counting votes for days/weeks. No ID laws. States not allowing pre-counting votes. States not allowing early voting. Having to wait 7 hours to vote at some polling locations vs 10 minutes at others. Allowing some forms of state agency issued ID to vote but not others. I'm sure everyone from every side can come up with their own list. How about we solve it all once and for all.
arp242 2y ago
The margin is so large that it doesn't matter (I did check before commenting). Something truly spectacular and unprecedented needs to happen for Harris to win the popular vote.
- culi 2y ago
  This is completely untrue. While Trump is favored, there are around 7 million votes left to count in California alone. Predominantly from major cities. Harris is expected to gain a net of almost 3 million from that
  - JeremyHoward 2y ago
    No it's not. Harris has less than a 1% chance of winning the popular vote at this stage. You can put $100 on her right now and make $20K when she wins.
  - arp242 2y ago
    That's not how I read it when I looked earilier, but we'll see how it turns out. I can't be bothered to check again, and I don't think it's an important point to argue right now. For what it's worth, I hope you're right and I'll gladly be wrong here.

Just a reminder that not all votes have been counted yet.

Andrew_nenakhov 2y ago

Yeah, if we talk about it, counting votes for days/weeks, and no ID laws are ridiculous.

marcosdumay 2y ago
Counting for days is ok. Having fights about it for a week or two is also ok. None of those break anything. The no ID culture and everything around it... I honestly can't understand it.
- Andrew_nenakhov 2y ago
  Counting for days is not OK. To ensure fair counting you need to have poll watchers from all interested parties present during voting and counting, and it is difficult to be present over 96 hours period - people need to sleep, and they can't observe the ballots repository or counting while they sleep. There is no reason why all ballots can't be counted it a few hours. If more people are needed to do it, then so be it.
bcrosby95 2y ago
Counting votes for days/weeks. No ID laws. States not allowing pre-counting votes. States not allowing early voting. Having to wait 7 hours to vote at some polling locations vs 10 minutes at others. Allowing some forms of state agency issued ID to vote but not others. I'm sure everyone from every side can come up with their own list. How about we solve it all once and for all.

arp242 2y ago

The margin is so large that it doesn't matter (I did check before commenting). Something truly spectacular and unprecedented needs to happen for Harris to win the popular vote.

culi 2y ago
This is completely untrue. While Trump is favored, there are around 7 million votes left to count in California alone. Predominantly from major cities. Harris is expected to gain a net of almost 3 million from that
- JeremyHoward 2y ago
  No it's not. Harris has less than a 1% chance of winning the popular vote at this stage. You can put $100 on her right now and make $20K when she wins.
- arp242 2y ago
  That's not how I read it when I looked earilier, but we'll see how it turns out. I can't be bothered to check again, and I don't think it's an important point to argue right now. For what it's worth, I hope you're right and I'll gladly be wrong here.