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To cut Intel some slack, this latest version overhauls their old architecture, and they were fairly upfront about the lack of development in performance in this

To cut Intel some slack, this latest version overhauls their old architecture, and they were fairly upfront about the lack of development in performance in this generation. The idea is the new platform will allow for better development in future, while improving efficiency fairly significantly.

qzw 2y ago
Also nice to be able to boast a bigger uplift in the following gen due to regressing this one! But they definitely did need to get their efficiency under control since their parts were turning into fairly decent personal heating units.
Night_Thastus 2y ago
From a consumer standpoint - this doesn't matter. You can't buy that future product that may exist. You can only choose whether to buy the current product or not. And right now, that product is bad. I certainly hope the next generation is a massive bump for Intel, but we'll see if that's the case.
- mmaniac 2y ago
  Adding onto that, the roadmap to Intel's next generation isn't exactly clear. Arrow Lake Refresh would have seemingly bumped core counts healthily, but that's cancelled now. I don't believe that it's cancelled because its successor is ahead of schedule.
fweimer 2y ago
I think the new T-equivalent CPU could be very interesting if Intel releases one. Those variants are optimized for 35W TDP, and they can be used for building high-performance fanless systems that can sustain their performance for quite some time. The lower power requirements for Arrow Lake might be a really good match there.
duskwuff 2y ago
> To cut Intel some slack, this latest version overhauls their old architecture... ... and their 13th/14th generation processors had serious problems with overvoltage-induced failures - they clearly needed to step back and focus on reliability over performance.
5kg 2y ago
it's scrapped, the new design: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2507953/lunar-lakes-integrated-dram-wont-happen-again-intel-ceo-says.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2507953/lunar-lakes-integrat...
- zeusk 2y ago
  Parent is quite possibly talking about arrow lake and not lunar lake which is a mobile only part.
heraldgeezer 2y ago
So why buy this generation and not wait unless your computer broke and you NEED Intel?

qzw 2y ago

Also nice to be able to boast a bigger uplift in the following gen due to regressing this one! But they definitely did need to get their efficiency under control since their parts were turning into fairly decent personal heating units.

Night_Thastus 2y ago

From a consumer standpoint - this doesn't matter. You can't buy that future product that may exist. You can only choose whether to buy the current product or not. And right now, that product is bad. I certainly hope the next generation is a massive bump for Intel, but we'll see if that's the case.

mmaniac 2y ago
Adding onto that, the roadmap to Intel's next generation isn't exactly clear. Arrow Lake Refresh would have seemingly bumped core counts healthily, but that's cancelled now. I don't believe that it's cancelled because its successor is ahead of schedule.

fweimer 2y ago

I think the new T-equivalent CPU could be very interesting if Intel releases one. Those variants are optimized for 35W TDP, and they can be used for building high-performance fanless systems that can sustain their performance for quite some time. The lower power requirements for Arrow Lake might be a really good match there.

duskwuff 2y ago

> To cut Intel some slack, this latest version overhauls their old architecture... ... and their 13th/14th generation processors had serious problems with overvoltage-induced failures - they clearly needed to step back and focus on reliability over performance.

5kg 2y ago

it's scrapped, the new design: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2507953/lunar-lakes-integrated-dram-wont-happen-again-intel-ceo-says.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2507953/lunar-lakes-integrat...

zeusk 2y ago
Parent is quite possibly talking about arrow lake and not lunar lake which is a mobile only part.

heraldgeezer 2y ago

So why buy this generation and not wait unless your computer broke and you NEED Intel?