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mib32 2y ago
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- amarcheschi 2y ago
  Us is not involved with boots on the ground. Now, try to imagine what you just said, but shift it to your country being invaded and imagine being told you're weird because you want soldiers to defend your motherland rather than giving away land
- lawn 2y ago
  If you stop and think a little longer you should realize that if you give after to Russia you prove that aggression works. And now they'll get to rebuild their military to attack Ukraine again, or maybe another country, leading to many more civilian deaths. Russian apologists are not just weird, they're dangerous.
  - miroljub 2y ago
    > If you stop and think a little longer you should realize that if you give after to Russia you prove that aggression works. It's already proven that it works for the USA. Why shouldn't it work for Russia? Except, at least in this case it's not aggression. > And now they'll get to rebuild their military to attack Ukraine again, or maybe another country, leading to many more civilian deaths. You mean like USA does all the time. > Russian apologists are not just weird, they're dangerous. USA apologists are even weirder.
    - Paradigma11 2y ago
      Russia is waging a war of conquest to annex its former colonies and restore its empire. There is zero reason to believe this will stop unless it is stopped.
      - miroljub 2y ago
        You failed to answer the question of how is that worse than the USA doing the same thing to the rest of the world since its separation from the UK.
        Paradigma11 2y ago
        What areas has the US annexed in the last 100 years?
        miroljub 2y ago
        > What areas has the US annexed in the last 100 years? Why stop at 100 years? Is it because the whole current USA territory is actually annexed? FYI, here's the list of wars the US was involved into, most of them they started. I leave it as an exercise for you to count the casualties and add it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...
- dghughes 2y ago
  Would the US give up Alaska if Russia attacked from Siberia? I'd say the US wouldn't. Ukraine has more support from EU countries who I think will step up more now that the US has become a Nazi theocratic state.
- lobsterthief 2y ago
  Would you be okay signing over your country’s lands to Russia right now? Assuming you aren’t in Russia already.
- trymas 2y ago
  How naive of you to think that native Ukrainians stuck under ruzzian occupation won’t become casualties after such “deal”.
- Yizahi 2y ago
  We would prefer less soldiers dying today than more soldiers and civilians dying in a year, after ruzzia recovers, restocks and attacks again.
joelthelion 2y ago
Taiwan being abandoned to its mainland neighbor, maybe?
- skandinaff 2y ago
  But what about all the semiconductor industry that US companies, esp now with AI advancement rely on so heavily?
  - archagon 2y ago
    Trump will make a deal with Xi to give him access to the industry post-takeover.
    - polotics 2y ago
      "make" => "try to and fail", as some people are harder to maneuver than, it seems, the American public
    - kragen 2y ago
      He won't need one, because Taiwan's semiconductor industry will be destroyed during the takeover and require a decade or more to rebuild.
    - michaelt 2y ago
      The UK thought they had a 50 year agreement with China to guaratee Hong Kong's democracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration Turns out if the other country decides they are altering the deal, and you don't have any leverage - the bit of paper isn't worth all that much in practice. Would you repeat the same feat with Taiwan, if you were in Trump's place?
- pineaux 2y ago
  Nah
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whoitwas 2y ago
Complete chaos. Retribution. Whatever the goon encounters. RIP USA
guerrilla 2y ago
You forgot trade war against Europe and China. Also, if economists and investors are right, massive inflation. I also personally predict total war with Iran, directly or indirectly.
drexlspivey 2y ago
- Anti abortion law possibly being implemented on a federal level Curious what do you base that on?
- miningape 2y ago
  Fear, rage, and entitlement. Trump has been very clear he just doesn't want it regulated at a federal level.
  - treyd 2y ago
    Yet all the people he associates with do. I wonder what the most likely outcome from that might involve...
  - boesboes 2y ago
    He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents and violently deal with immigrants. What should we believe?
    - miningape 2y ago
      > He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents When? He's gone out of his way to *not* imprison his opponents. Why do you think Hillary is still running around? > violently deal with immigrants *Illegal Immigrants Not so sure about the violent part either, but let's just say that that's true.
- akmarinov 2y ago
  Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire? Why overturn Roe otherwise? Why not implement it now when they'll control all branches of government and have a 6-3 favor in the supreme court?
  - miningape 2y ago
    > Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire? No, it's not. > Why overturn Roe otherwise? To let states decide how it should be handled, rather than a federal mandate. Allowing different possibilities to be tested - maybe in some states it will become completely illegal, maybe in others mothers will face pressure to terminate a pregnancy.
_ink_ 2y ago
If the US drops support of Ukraine Putin might try to take Kyjiw again.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  I kinda expect the EU to go collective defense if the US pulls out, to see if the US can still be trusted to honor its words, of if they have to write it off entirely (honestly, they should have done that before, but…)
  - akmarinov 2y ago
    I don't see that. Netherlands, Austria predominantly leaning right now, joining Hungary, Slovakia. Germany and France are both with very unstable governments. Pretty much leaves Poland and the Baltics
  - rightbyte 2y ago
    I don't think they see an unilateral suicide as more tempting than a bilateral suicide.
FridgeSeal 2y ago
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georgeplusplus 2y ago
You’re missing a lot. War is not good and signing peace deals is not a bad thing. Dems lost this election because they’ve become the party of warmongerers. You need to understand that played a big role.
- lobsterthief 2y ago
  Signing peace deals to give over lands stolen by Russia is a good thing?
- iinnPP 2y ago
  This doesn't get enough mention.
- munksbeer 2y ago
  > War is not good and signing peace deals is not a bad thing. If Russia invades Alaska, do you think the average Republican will take the same sentiment? Just give him that land because otherwise lots of people will die.
- wezdog1 2y ago
  Assuming you are not dealing with despots who will strike again.
- uxp100 2y ago
  I don’t completely disagree with you (I mean, I mostly do, just not completely) but do you have reason to think the hawkishness of the Biden administration (a lot of which was inherited from the hawkish first trump administration) really influenced people? Like polls, or even surprising anecdotes? Americans mostly don’t seem to care about foreign policy at all.
  - georgeplusplus 2y ago
    No we do get it. It’s these modern democrats that are so disconnected from the reality of the American people which is why they lost huge in this election across all racial and demographic lines. Look at NY how does it get that close? The American people cried that the economy was bad for them and the democrat message was no it’s better than ever. The American people said why are we sending billions to Ukraine when we need the money here. They were told we were supporting dictatorships. Just look at some of the responses to my comment here. The American voter was concerned about the huge crime waves in the cities and the biden admin told us crime was good and made up. The Democrat response to COVId was to shut up and take the vaccine or lose your job. I’m surprised she didn’t lose more with all the pain biden Harris caused.
archagon 2y ago
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arethuza 2y ago
If Ukraine falls then the Baltics will be next - I can see Poland, France and the UK attempting to help but I suspect this would ultimately fail leading to the breakup of NATO. EU either breaks up or becomes much stronger...
- kitd 2y ago
  Moldova first. The Kremlin have already refused to recognise the new pro-EU leader, and they've been making noises about Transnistria for a while (a similar situation to Crimea and East Ukraine).
- akmarinov 2y ago
  It'll take multiple years for Russia to recover and have the means to target the Baltics, by then Putin will likely kick the bucket, as he's getting up there in years and who knows what the succession would look like.
- snickerbockers 2y ago
  There's a huge difference between invading a NATO member and invading a non-NATO member. And ultimately I don't think Russia has the capability to continue invading more countries with or without the US' opposition, this war has been a nonstop embarrassment for them. If Poland France and the UK are more invested in opposing Russia then one would think that the Ukraine wouldn't be entirely reliant on the US to support it. This is the fundamental problem with the proxy war in the Ukraine, the people pushing for it talk about it as if the fate of the European continent rests on the fulcrum of the Ukraine and yet the other European countries hardly seem to care.
  - arethuza 2y ago
    "There's a huge difference between invading a NATO member and invading a non-NATO member." In practise, doesn't that depend on what the US decides?
    - snickerbockers 2y ago
konart 2y ago
>pull out of Kursk This is happening any week now with or without Trump.
YetAnotherNick 2y ago
Is there any reason or source to anything you said, or just saying because you hate him. Specially regarding the last one, he clearly mentioned that he is against that. I am as much against Trump as the next guy, but let's don't degrade HN conversations to this level.
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BigToach 2y ago
RFK Jr. in charge of or heavily influencing FDA and other health related policy. Dismantling the Department of Education Mass deportations Tariffs
- mlnj 2y ago
  Ooooh, that's gonna be real interesting to see. An anti-vaxxer in charge of healthcare. Taking fluoride away from drinking water. Weakening vaccine research and development. Looks like most Americans will be in for a long suffering in the coming decades. Combine that with privatisation of health insurance and weakening Medicaid, this heavily points towards a Brexit moment for the USA.
- ra7 2y ago
  Quite possibly the most devastating thing for the country, if he follows through on the crazy health policies. It will be felt for decades.
iamben 2y ago
Mainstream (safe!) vaccine scepticism?
vdvsvwvwvwvwv 2y ago
Sadly neither candidate was going to substantively stick up for Gazan citizens. I just hope Trump's wildcardness spins the geopolitical roulette wheel to land on peace.
maratc 2y ago
I’m old enough to remember 2016 elections and the “rip usa we are doomed” predictions then. The fact is, we were ok that time, it’s gonna be ok this time too.
- toombowoombo 2y ago
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- vundercind 2y ago
  We ratcheted several notches farther toward high-level corruption being normal—multiple family members in high level positions, no divestment from direct control of business interests—Carter gave up control of a peanut farm to be president because to do otherwise would have been unacceptable, that’s how much has changed. Even on just that front it was extremely damaging, and that’s one thing.
- gwd 2y ago
  > The fact is, we were ok that time, it’s gonna be ok this time too. Trump has always wanted to be a tyrant; he has always wanted to run the country like he runs his businesses -- he says something and it's done, he makes decisions for his own personal benefit, he rewards his friends and punishes his enemies. In 2016 he wasn't expecting to win and didn't really know what he wanted, so he appointed well-respected people from the Republican establishment. Those people believed in the constitution, the rule of law, the rules-based international order, and so on, and pushed back and refused to obey him when he wanted to act like a tyrant. This time is different. He knows what he wants: People who will be personally loyal to him. The Republican establishment has been destroyed. The Supreme Court has officially decreed that nearly anything he does is immune from prosecution. He will have a much easier time getting his way this time than he did in 2016.
acje 2y ago
My biggest fear is that Trumps deterrence of CRINK countries will cause XI to miscalculate. Other than that I think this is manageable. EU will get a boost as the internal awakening materializes. As an European I had difficulty understanding why Trump was even an alternative, but I have come to realize that the Plutocratic nature of the US was causing more suffering for the people than was easily observed from here.
ray023 2y ago
Lots of wrongs you got there. "- Israel given carte blanche and a lot of support to bulldoze Gaza" I agree, both parties are way to big buddy with Isreal, war with Iran I am not sure sure. "- Russian sanctions lifted" Ah yeah that is why Putin endorsed Kamala for that EXACT OPPOSITE reason that Trump put heavy sanctions on Russia and he did not like that. "- Elon looking to cut government spending - healthcare, subsidies" Any evidence of this claim? Of course not. Making government more efficient does not equal to your doomsday fears. Has Elon ever public-ally indicated and of this? I do not know his positions on this honestly but I doubt your claims. Elon is for UBI, he says the world needs it because Robots will take over, and I doubt he will support a UBI where people can not effort to pay their doctors and surgeons with. So I am calling straight BS on this. "- Anti abortion law possibly being implemented on a federal level" Any hint about this claim? No of course not. "What else am i missing?" A lot actually: - No more stupid DEI BS that is already on a downwards trend even during Biden/K - No more castrating kids, chopping their breasts of pps of. - No more hiding from parents that they supposedly changed their gender/pronouns or whatever they latest trendy woke sh1t it. - No more indoctrination in education like things that you are more oppressed/valuable the more "minority" checkboxes you check. Hopefully the DEATH of wokeness. - Less of the PURPOSEFULLY pushing illegals to vote (for dems of course). BY LAW in California they can not ask people for ID to vote. Total insanity, not sure if they can required ID federally but I hope they can and will. - Securing the Border. Kamala flipped on this btw, as she did on plenty of others things b4. But as she noted the people actually WANT a secure border, including all the people she thought will vote for her, she suddenly claimed she wanted the same thing that was always Trumps thing and she railed against. - Free Speech online and offline, something the real left once was championing but now they are all pro censorship of all the opinions they do not like. Simply call everything they do not like "hate-speech" and call everyone who dares to have a "right" opinion on something a nazi. - Less regulations more economic opportunity. Something that ties into Elons government efficiency endearment I guess. What they will cut it bureaucracy and the burden to start and operate a business. - I am sceptical of this is just a lie but Trump at least claims he is anti-war. While the left openly the war mongering 24/7. You very typically put "deal" in quotes and make it sound like a peace deal is something bad. Peace deals are incredibly good and if Trump can actually make and negotiate deals with countries instead of starting WW3 that would be great. The US needs to stop invading counties and getting involved on the globe with 700 military basis across the world ... it needs to end. And I do not think Trump will end it, but a president that will start 1 war less then the other side is still a win. And Trump is hopefully that guy. The Israel Gaza situations is bad and Trump is 100% wrong so far on this.
mondrian 2y ago
The US is currently in proxy war with Russia on two fronts: Ukraine and Israel/Iran. Conceding Ukraine would help Iran, which is probably not what Israel wants. The idea that Trump would be friendly to Putin -- lift sanctions, give him Ukraine -- seems like a strategical contradiction.
- akmarinov 2y ago
  Sadly, he's never indicated anything to the contrary
kragen 2y ago
This seems like a reasonably good analysis, but Trump's frequent campaign promise to deport all the "illegal immigrants" seems like it might deserve a prominent mention, even if only to explain why you don't think it will happen. During the campaign, Trump often defined "illegal immigrants" as 20 million people or more, some of whom have US residency visas that Trump thinks they shouldn't have gotten and therefore aren't "illegal" in the conventional sense. If it does happen, it will be the largest "ethnic cleansing" in human history—bigger than the Yugoslavian migrations, bigger than the Armenian genocide, bigger than the Holocaust, bigger than the Holodomor, bigger than the US's previous forced removals of Native Americans. I say "ethnic" because it's primarily directed at people who are dark-skinned because of their Native American ancestry and driven by racism against them. It isn't directed against white illegal immigrants like Elon Musk and Melania Trump were.

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mib32 2y ago

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amarcheschi 2y ago
Us is not involved with boots on the ground. Now, try to imagine what you just said, but shift it to your country being invaded and imagine being told you're weird because you want soldiers to defend your motherland rather than giving away land
lawn 2y ago
If you stop and think a little longer you should realize that if you give after to Russia you prove that aggression works. And now they'll get to rebuild their military to attack Ukraine again, or maybe another country, leading to many more civilian deaths. Russian apologists are not just weird, they're dangerous.
- miroljub 2y ago
  > If you stop and think a little longer you should realize that if you give after to Russia you prove that aggression works. It's already proven that it works for the USA. Why shouldn't it work for Russia? Except, at least in this case it's not aggression. > And now they'll get to rebuild their military to attack Ukraine again, or maybe another country, leading to many more civilian deaths. You mean like USA does all the time. > Russian apologists are not just weird, they're dangerous. USA apologists are even weirder.
  - Paradigma11 2y ago
    Russia is waging a war of conquest to annex its former colonies and restore its empire. There is zero reason to believe this will stop unless it is stopped.
    - miroljub 2y ago
      You failed to answer the question of how is that worse than the USA doing the same thing to the rest of the world since its separation from the UK.
      - Paradigma11 2y ago
        What areas has the US annexed in the last 100 years?
        miroljub 2y ago
        > What areas has the US annexed in the last 100 years? Why stop at 100 years? Is it because the whole current USA territory is actually annexed? FYI, here's the list of wars the US was involved into, most of them they started. I leave it as an exercise for you to count the casualties and add it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni...
dghughes 2y ago
Would the US give up Alaska if Russia attacked from Siberia? I'd say the US wouldn't. Ukraine has more support from EU countries who I think will step up more now that the US has become a Nazi theocratic state.
lobsterthief 2y ago
Would you be okay signing over your country’s lands to Russia right now? Assuming you aren’t in Russia already.
trymas 2y ago
How naive of you to think that native Ukrainians stuck under ruzzian occupation won’t become casualties after such “deal”.
Yizahi 2y ago
We would prefer less soldiers dying today than more soldiers and civilians dying in a year, after ruzzia recovers, restocks and attacks again.

joelthelion 2y ago

Taiwan being abandoned to its mainland neighbor, maybe?

skandinaff 2y ago
But what about all the semiconductor industry that US companies, esp now with AI advancement rely on so heavily?
- archagon 2y ago
  Trump will make a deal with Xi to give him access to the industry post-takeover.
  - polotics 2y ago
    "make" => "try to and fail", as some people are harder to maneuver than, it seems, the American public
  - kragen 2y ago
    He won't need one, because Taiwan's semiconductor industry will be destroyed during the takeover and require a decade or more to rebuild.
  - michaelt 2y ago
    The UK thought they had a 50 year agreement with China to guaratee Hong Kong's democracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration Turns out if the other country decides they are altering the deal, and you don't have any leverage - the bit of paper isn't worth all that much in practice. Would you repeat the same feat with Taiwan, if you were in Trump's place?
pineaux 2y ago
Nah

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whoitwas 2y ago

Complete chaos. Retribution. Whatever the goon encounters. RIP USA

guerrilla 2y ago

You forgot trade war against Europe and China. Also, if economists and investors are right, massive inflation. I also personally predict total war with Iran, directly or indirectly.

drexlspivey 2y ago

- Anti abortion law possibly being implemented on a federal level Curious what do you base that on?

miningape 2y ago
Fear, rage, and entitlement. Trump has been very clear he just doesn't want it regulated at a federal level.
- treyd 2y ago
  Yet all the people he associates with do. I wonder what the most likely outcome from that might involve...
- boesboes 2y ago
  He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents and violently deal with immigrants. What should we believe?
  - miningape 2y ago
    > He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents When? He's gone out of his way to *not* imprison his opponents. Why do you think Hillary is still running around? > violently deal with immigrants *Illegal Immigrants Not so sure about the violent part either, but let's just say that that's true.
akmarinov 2y ago
Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire? Why overturn Roe otherwise? Why not implement it now when they'll control all branches of government and have a 6-3 favor in the supreme court?
- miningape 2y ago
  > Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire? No, it's not. > Why overturn Roe otherwise? To let states decide how it should be handled, rather than a federal mandate. Allowing different possibilities to be tested - maybe in some states it will become completely illegal, maybe in others mothers will face pressure to terminate a pregnancy.

_ink_ 2y ago

If the US drops support of Ukraine Putin might try to take Kyjiw again.

Aeolun 2y ago
I kinda expect the EU to go collective defense if the US pulls out, to see if the US can still be trusted to honor its words, of if they have to write it off entirely (honestly, they should have done that before, but…)
- akmarinov 2y ago
  I don't see that. Netherlands, Austria predominantly leaning right now, joining Hungary, Slovakia. Germany and France are both with very unstable governments. Pretty much leaves Poland and the Baltics
- rightbyte 2y ago
  I don't think they see an unilateral suicide as more tempting than a bilateral suicide.

FridgeSeal 2y ago

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georgeplusplus 2y ago

You’re missing a lot. War is not good and signing peace deals is not a bad thing. Dems lost this election because they’ve become the party of warmongerers. You need to understand that played a big role.

lobsterthief 2y ago
Signing peace deals to give over lands stolen by Russia is a good thing?
iinnPP 2y ago
This doesn't get enough mention.
munksbeer 2y ago
> War is not good and signing peace deals is not a bad thing. If Russia invades Alaska, do you think the average Republican will take the same sentiment? Just give him that land because otherwise lots of people will die.
wezdog1 2y ago
Assuming you are not dealing with despots who will strike again.
uxp100 2y ago
I don’t completely disagree with you (I mean, I mostly do, just not completely) but do you have reason to think the hawkishness of the Biden administration (a lot of which was inherited from the hawkish first trump administration) really influenced people? Like polls, or even surprising anecdotes? Americans mostly don’t seem to care about foreign policy at all.
- georgeplusplus 2y ago
  No we do get it. It’s these modern democrats that are so disconnected from the reality of the American people which is why they lost huge in this election across all racial and demographic lines. Look at NY how does it get that close? The American people cried that the economy was bad for them and the democrat message was no it’s better than ever. The American people said why are we sending billions to Ukraine when we need the money here. They were told we were supporting dictatorships. Just look at some of the responses to my comment here. The American voter was concerned about the huge crime waves in the cities and the biden admin told us crime was good and made up. The Democrat response to COVId was to shut up and take the vaccine or lose your job. I’m surprised she didn’t lose more with all the pain biden Harris caused.

archagon 2y ago

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arethuza 2y ago

If Ukraine falls then the Baltics will be next - I can see Poland, France and the UK attempting to help but I suspect this would ultimately fail leading to the breakup of NATO. EU either breaks up or becomes much stronger...

kitd 2y ago
Moldova first. The Kremlin have already refused to recognise the new pro-EU leader, and they've been making noises about Transnistria for a while (a similar situation to Crimea and East Ukraine).
akmarinov 2y ago
It'll take multiple years for Russia to recover and have the means to target the Baltics, by then Putin will likely kick the bucket, as he's getting up there in years and who knows what the succession would look like.
snickerbockers 2y ago
There's a huge difference between invading a NATO member and invading a non-NATO member. And ultimately I don't think Russia has the capability to continue invading more countries with or without the US' opposition, this war has been a nonstop embarrassment for them. If Poland France and the UK are more invested in opposing Russia then one would think that the Ukraine wouldn't be entirely reliant on the US to support it. This is the fundamental problem with the proxy war in the Ukraine, the people pushing for it talk about it as if the fate of the European continent rests on the fulcrum of the Ukraine and yet the other European countries hardly seem to care.
- arethuza 2y ago
  "There's a huge difference between invading a NATO member and invading a non-NATO member." In practise, doesn't that depend on what the US decides?
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konart 2y ago

>pull out of Kursk This is happening any week now with or without Trump.

YetAnotherNick 2y ago

Is there any reason or source to anything you said, or just saying because you hate him. Specially regarding the last one, he clearly mentioned that he is against that. I am as much against Trump as the next guy, but let's don't degrade HN conversations to this level.

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BigToach 2y ago

RFK Jr. in charge of or heavily influencing FDA and other health related policy. Dismantling the Department of Education Mass deportations Tariffs

mlnj 2y ago
Ooooh, that's gonna be real interesting to see. An anti-vaxxer in charge of healthcare. Taking fluoride away from drinking water. Weakening vaccine research and development. Looks like most Americans will be in for a long suffering in the coming decades. Combine that with privatisation of health insurance and weakening Medicaid, this heavily points towards a Brexit moment for the USA.
ra7 2y ago
Quite possibly the most devastating thing for the country, if he follows through on the crazy health policies. It will be felt for decades.

iamben 2y ago

Mainstream (safe!) vaccine scepticism?

vdvsvwvwvwvwv 2y ago

Sadly neither candidate was going to substantively stick up for Gazan citizens. I just hope Trump's wildcardness spins the geopolitical roulette wheel to land on peace.

maratc 2y ago

I’m old enough to remember 2016 elections and the “rip usa we are doomed” predictions then. The fact is, we were ok that time, it’s gonna be ok this time too.

toombowoombo 2y ago
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vundercind 2y ago
We ratcheted several notches farther toward high-level corruption being normal—multiple family members in high level positions, no divestment from direct control of business interests—Carter gave up control of a peanut farm to be president because to do otherwise would have been unacceptable, that’s how much has changed. Even on just that front it was extremely damaging, and that’s one thing.
gwd 2y ago
> The fact is, we were ok that time, it’s gonna be ok this time too. Trump has always wanted to be a tyrant; he has always wanted to run the country like he runs his businesses -- he says something and it's done, he makes decisions for his own personal benefit, he rewards his friends and punishes his enemies. In 2016 he wasn't expecting to win and didn't really know what he wanted, so he appointed well-respected people from the Republican establishment. Those people believed in the constitution, the rule of law, the rules-based international order, and so on, and pushed back and refused to obey him when he wanted to act like a tyrant. This time is different. He knows what he wants: People who will be personally loyal to him. The Republican establishment has been destroyed. The Supreme Court has officially decreed that nearly anything he does is immune from prosecution. He will have a much easier time getting his way this time than he did in 2016.

acje 2y ago

My biggest fear is that Trumps deterrence of CRINK countries will cause XI to miscalculate. Other than that I think this is manageable. EU will get a boost as the internal awakening materializes. As an European I had difficulty understanding why Trump was even an alternative, but I have come to realize that the Plutocratic nature of the US was causing more suffering for the people than was easily observed from here.

ray023 2y ago

Lots of wrongs you got there. "- Israel given carte blanche and a lot of support to bulldoze Gaza" I agree, both parties are way to big buddy with Isreal, war with Iran I am not sure sure. "- Russian sanctions lifted" Ah yeah that is why Putin endorsed Kamala for that EXACT OPPOSITE reason that Trump put heavy sanctions on Russia and he did not like that. "- Elon looking to cut government spending - healthcare, subsidies" Any evidence of this claim? Of course not. Making government more efficient does not equal to your doomsday fears. Has Elon ever public-ally indicated and of this? I do not know his positions on this honestly but I doubt your claims. Elon is for UBI, he says the world needs it because Robots will take over, and I doubt he will support a UBI where people can not effort to pay their doctors and surgeons with. So I am calling straight BS on this. "- Anti abortion law possibly being implemented on a federal level" Any hint about this claim? No of course not. "What else am i missing?" A lot actually: - No more stupid DEI BS that is already on a downwards trend even during Biden/K - No more castrating kids, chopping their breasts of pps of. - No more hiding from parents that they supposedly changed their gender/pronouns or whatever they latest trendy woke sh1t it. - No more indoctrination in education like things that you are more oppressed/valuable the more "minority" checkboxes you check. Hopefully the DEATH of wokeness. - Less of the PURPOSEFULLY pushing illegals to vote (for dems of course). BY LAW in California they can not ask people for ID to vote. Total insanity, not sure if they can required ID federally but I hope they can and will. - Securing the Border. Kamala flipped on this btw, as she did on plenty of others things b4. But as she noted the people actually WANT a secure border, including all the people she thought will vote for her, she suddenly claimed she wanted the same thing that was always Trumps thing and she railed against. - Free Speech online and offline, something the real left once was championing but now they are all pro censorship of all the opinions they do not like. Simply call everything they do not like "hate-speech" and call everyone who dares to have a "right" opinion on something a nazi. - Less regulations more economic opportunity. Something that ties into Elons government efficiency endearment I guess. What they will cut it bureaucracy and the burden to start and operate a business. - I am sceptical of this is just a lie but Trump at least claims he is anti-war. While the left openly the war mongering 24/7. You very typically put "deal" in quotes and make it sound like a peace deal is something bad. Peace deals are incredibly good and if Trump can actually make and negotiate deals with countries instead of starting WW3 that would be great. The US needs to stop invading counties and getting involved on the globe with 700 military basis across the world ... it needs to end. And I do not think Trump will end it, but a president that will start 1 war less then the other side is still a win. And Trump is hopefully that guy. The Israel Gaza situations is bad and Trump is 100% wrong so far on this.

mondrian 2y ago

The US is currently in proxy war with Russia on two fronts: Ukraine and Israel/Iran. Conceding Ukraine would help Iran, which is probably not what Israel wants. The idea that Trump would be friendly to Putin -- lift sanctions, give him Ukraine -- seems like a strategical contradiction.

akmarinov 2y ago
Sadly, he's never indicated anything to the contrary

kragen 2y ago

This seems like a reasonably good analysis, but Trump's frequent campaign promise to deport all the "illegal immigrants" seems like it might deserve a prominent mention, even if only to explain why you don't think it will happen. During the campaign, Trump often defined "illegal immigrants" as 20 million people or more, some of whom have US residency visas that Trump thinks they shouldn't have gotten and therefore aren't "illegal" in the conventional sense. If it does happen, it will be the largest "ethnic cleansing" in human history—bigger than the Yugoslavian migrations, bigger than the Armenian genocide, bigger than the Holocaust, bigger than the Holodomor, bigger than the US's previous forced removals of Native Americans. I say "ethnic" because it's primarily directed at people who are dark-skinned because of their Native American ancestry and driven by racism against them. It isn't directed against white illegal immigrants like Elon Musk and Melania Trump were.