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>Religious types love the connection between religion and morality // I can only speak to my experience of Christians (in the UK, of a broad swathe of denomina
by pbhjpbhj 2y ago
>Religious types love the connection between religion and morality //
I can only speak to my experience of Christians (in the UK, of a broad swathe of denominations), but a central tenet is that all people are sinners. Never have I heard it expressed that Christians are more moral than others except in strawman arguments suggesting that the immortality of a/some Christians demonstrates God does not exist. Indeed even in a small parish CofE church in rural England {mainstream, not progressive, conservative} I've heard the opposite preached.
Perhaps some Christian leaders have expressed this view and it passed me by? Maybe it's a Roman Catholic thing?
Many things that are more reasonable to believe are false, I don't see how 'we could be more moral without religion' proves anything?
- card_zero 2y agoDo you mean to say that Christians are less moral than others, and the importance of Christianity is to keep these reprobates in check? Even so, this is still a connection. Unless what you're saying is "the church believes Christianity makes people bad", which would be fascinating to hear about.
- pbhjpbhj 2y agoThe "opposite" I was talking about is "[some] atheists are no less good, some are paragons of morality...". The point the speaker is trying to make in those sermons is that truth is the vital thing, not the results of the truth. That we don't have to get good before coming to God, as they are for sinners. Certainly some classes of people confessing to be followers of Christ are abjectly immoral... love your neighbour! In one of the minor epistles James says 'true religion is taking care of widows and orphans'. If the Church as a whole resembled either of those edicts then the World would look much rosier imo.