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Moving my website from Netlify to Caddy

29 points by twapi 2y ago

nusl 2y ago
Netlify's pricing is pretty insane for bandwidth, yeah. They also are quite brutal when it comes to your site getting DOSed or some other form of traffic flood.
_joel 2y ago
Caddy and self-hosting's cool and all, but I think I'd miss push to git to deploy and just not having to manage 'stuff'. Although, I did move a site from netlify to cloudflare (free) and still have this facility.
- cube2222 2y ago
  Yeah this, I too prefer hosting static websites via static storage or CDN, rather than having to operate anything. CloudFlare Pages is great, and so is GitHub Pages for developer websites.
  - mobilio 2y ago
    I also vouch for CF Pages! Killer features for $0. EXCEPT redirects of .html to / (slash) that you can't control.
- atwrk 2y ago
  If your content is static anyway, you can just rsync to deploy instead of push to deploy: rsync -e "ssh -p $(SSH_PORT)" -P -rvzc --cvs-exclude --delete $(LOCAL_CONTENT) $(SSH_USER)@$(SSH_HOST):$(REMOTE_DIR) Self-hosting then essentially just means doing apt install nginx once.
  - _joel 2y ago
    That would expose .git, unless other nginx config masked it. cvs-exclude is for cvs, right?
    - atwrk 2y ago
      It was for cvs, because rsync is old, but nowadays also filters out .git, .svn, .hg etc. In any case this is supposed to only sync the rendered content from $(LOCAL_CONTENT), not the templates used for rendering.
      - _joel 2y ago
        You think they'd change the name to vcs-exclude, then.
        pepa65 2y ago
        Backwards compatibility.
        _joel 2y ago
        Can retain that and add a vcs-exclude, right?
- always_imposter 2y ago
  You could setup a github action(if your repo is hosted on Github) or use something like gitea in your local environment to manage your repo and then you push changes to that gitea repo, it has an action runner like github's which does all the automating stuff for you. It is only one time setup pain point, after that you are all set.
colesantiago 2y ago
I don't get why anyone would use Netlify for a personal website or any website nowadays. Unless I am missing something, there are places where you can host a website for as close to $0, even if you start to get over 100GB of traffic, wouldn't get a huge uncontrolled bill.
- logikblok 2y ago
  Any tips on what you'd suggest as alternatives please?
  - 3np 2y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039972 Most websites don't require backend logic.
  - colesantiago 2y ago
    Cloudflare, Render, etc.
- wink 2y ago
  Inertia? I have a small project with basically zero visitors, doing basically zero traffic, being filled with a git commit via cron job every day, happily chugging along for a couple years. Why would I switch as long as it works?
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Imustaskforhelp 2y ago
cloudflare pages github pages / basically any git provider provides pages like codeberg / framagit / disroot git You don't need to pay literally anything. You could point it to your own domain. I have seen many professional people use github pages as their blog pages. You can use ci / cd actions to basically just write markdown push it and it would convert to html and automatically reload github pages Comments can be used via cactus and many many others I think https://rochacbruno.github.io/marmite/enabling-comments.html https://rochacbruno.github.io/marmite/enabling-comments.html I just installed caddy on my local linux archlinux system , I love golang but I had never bothered installing caddy locally , well it seems really cool , I have currently installed marmite as well locally . My problem though to moving to caddy is why even pay 5$ when you can get it for free. I have installed it on my pc just for learning experiences :)
jicea 2y ago
I really loves Caddy, it has replaced nginx in my go-to HTTP server. It's really simple and powerfull, one nice example is how simple you can deploy applications with zero downtine [1]. On testing HTTP requests, I'd suggest Hurl [2], (I'm one of the maintainer). You will trade Ruby unit tests for a tailored HTTP text file format but I think it can shine for this kind of migration. Tests will be run in parallel, really fast. For instance, test_site_is_up.rb will be replaced by a simple text file: GET https://alexwlchan.net HTTP 200 [Asserts] body contains "This website is a place to share stuff I find interesting or fun." GET https://alexwlchan.net/articles/ HTTP 200 [Asserts] body contains "Articles" # etc... Testing alternate domains (test_alternate_domains.rb) could be: GET http://alexwlchan.net HTTP 308 Location: https://alexwlchan.net/ GET http://alexwlchan.net/contact/ HTTP 301 Location https://alexwlchan.net/ # etc... Give it a try! [1]: https://www.lambrospetrou.com/articles/server-deploy-scripts/ https://www.lambrospetrou.com/articles/server-deploy-scripts... [2]: https://hurl.dev https://hurl.dev
nchmy 2y ago
Caddy is great. But why didn't they just put any cdn in front of netlify (or caddy as well)? Not only would it reduce the traffic to the static site to essentially 0, it would serve requests nearly instantaneously from the edge.
nunez 2y ago
Going with Ruby for the test suite but not using RSpec and Capybara is an interesting choice. Why?

29 points by twapi 2y ago

nusl 2y ago

Netlify's pricing is pretty insane for bandwidth, yeah. They also are quite brutal when it comes to your site getting DOSed or some other form of traffic flood.

_joel 2y ago

Caddy and self-hosting's cool and all, but I think I'd miss push to git to deploy and just not having to manage 'stuff'. Although, I did move a site from netlify to cloudflare (free) and still have this facility.

cube2222 2y ago
Yeah this, I too prefer hosting static websites via static storage or CDN, rather than having to operate anything. CloudFlare Pages is great, and so is GitHub Pages for developer websites.
- mobilio 2y ago
  I also vouch for CF Pages! Killer features for $0. EXCEPT redirects of .html to / (slash) that you can't control.
atwrk 2y ago
If your content is static anyway, you can just rsync to deploy instead of push to deploy: rsync -e "ssh -p $(SSH_PORT)" -P -rvzc --cvs-exclude --delete $(LOCAL_CONTENT) $(SSH_USER)@$(SSH_HOST):$(REMOTE_DIR) Self-hosting then essentially just means doing apt install nginx once.
- _joel 2y ago
  That would expose .git, unless other nginx config masked it. cvs-exclude is for cvs, right?
  - atwrk 2y ago
    It was for cvs, because rsync is old, but nowadays also filters out .git, .svn, .hg etc. In any case this is supposed to only sync the rendered content from $(LOCAL_CONTENT), not the templates used for rendering.
    - _joel 2y ago
      You think they'd change the name to vcs-exclude, then.
      - pepa65 2y ago
        Backwards compatibility.
        _joel 2y ago
        Can retain that and add a vcs-exclude, right?
always_imposter 2y ago
You could setup a github action(if your repo is hosted on Github) or use something like gitea in your local environment to manage your repo and then you push changes to that gitea repo, it has an action runner like github's which does all the automating stuff for you. It is only one time setup pain point, after that you are all set.

colesantiago 2y ago

I don't get why anyone would use Netlify for a personal website or any website nowadays. Unless I am missing something, there are places where you can host a website for as close to $0, even if you start to get over 100GB of traffic, wouldn't get a huge uncontrolled bill.

logikblok 2y ago
Any tips on what you'd suggest as alternatives please?
- 3np 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039972 Most websites don't require backend logic.
- colesantiago 2y ago
  Cloudflare, Render, etc.
wink 2y ago
Inertia? I have a small project with basically zero visitors, doing basically zero traffic, being filled with a git commit via cron job every day, happily chugging along for a couple years. Why would I switch as long as it works?

deleted 2y ago

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Imustaskforhelp 2y ago

cloudflare pages github pages / basically any git provider provides pages like codeberg / framagit / disroot git You don't need to pay literally anything. You could point it to your own domain. I have seen many professional people use github pages as their blog pages. You can use ci / cd actions to basically just write markdown push it and it would convert to html and automatically reload github pages Comments can be used via cactus and many many others I think https://rochacbruno.github.io/marmite/enabling-comments.html https://rochacbruno.github.io/marmite/enabling-comments.html I just installed caddy on my local linux archlinux system , I love golang but I had never bothered installing caddy locally , well it seems really cool , I have currently installed marmite as well locally . My problem though to moving to caddy is why even pay 5$ when you can get it for free. I have installed it on my pc just for learning experiences :)

jicea 2y ago

I really loves Caddy, it has replaced nginx in my go-to HTTP server. It's really simple and powerfull, one nice example is how simple you can deploy applications with zero downtine [1]. On testing HTTP requests, I'd suggest Hurl [2], (I'm one of the maintainer). You will trade Ruby unit tests for a tailored HTTP text file format but I think it can shine for this kind of migration. Tests will be run in parallel, really fast. For instance, test_site_is_up.rb will be replaced by a simple text file: GET https://alexwlchan.net HTTP 200 [Asserts] body contains "This website is a place to share stuff I find interesting or fun." GET https://alexwlchan.net/articles/ HTTP 200 [Asserts] body contains "Articles" # etc... Testing alternate domains (test_alternate_domains.rb) could be: GET http://alexwlchan.net HTTP 308 Location: https://alexwlchan.net/ GET http://alexwlchan.net/contact/ HTTP 301 Location https://alexwlchan.net/ # etc... Give it a try! [1]: https://www.lambrospetrou.com/articles/server-deploy-scripts/ https://www.lambrospetrou.com/articles/server-deploy-scripts... [2]: https://hurl.dev https://hurl.dev

nchmy 2y ago

Caddy is great. But why didn't they just put any cdn in front of netlify (or caddy as well)? Not only would it reduce the traffic to the static site to essentially 0, it would serve requests nearly instantaneously from the edge.

nunez 2y ago

Going with Ruby for the test suite but not using RSpec and Capybara is an interesting choice. Why?