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EVs are nice at first but if you enjoy cars as a hobby the problems become apparent. They all have the same torque curve, doesn’t matter if it’s a Tesla or a Ki
by oceanplexian 2y ago
EVs are nice at first but if you enjoy cars as a hobby the problems become apparent. They all have the same torque curve, doesn’t matter if it’s a Tesla or a Kia or a GM. They are all as heavy as a truck, understeer like crazy and have over boosted steering. Most are difficult to maintain and the mfgr’s are downright hostile to backyard mechanics.
On paper they can get great times around a track have instant torque and all the things we already know, but in real life they feel like a kitchen appliance. Some people like that and more power to them. For a gearhead it leaves so much to be desired.
- Shawnj2 2y agoThe most popular cars in the US are the RAV4, Toyota Camry, ford f150, Tesla model 3, etc. the market has voted on stable and boring, I don’t think 90% of cars on the market by volume sold will lose really anything in the transition to electric tbh.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoGod forbid people have hobbies that don't commit to groupthink.
- Shawnj2 2y agoIf like 5% of people keep buying gas powered sports cars or things like large trucks and SUV’s which are just expensive or less practical to electrify for their use case I don’t think it will particularly stem the tide of electrification in the US and that’s also ignoring manufacturers like lucid which are making esoteric expensive high performance EV’s.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoAre you seeing the same for motorcycles which are by far ICE based and not rushing to transition to electric?
- Shawnj2 2y agoThere are plenty of electric motorcycles now and we're seeing ebikes crop up as a new class of vehicles between bicycles and motorcycles popular with kids who can't drive either cars or motorcycles (yes they're technically under a bunch of restrictions but in practice people put throttles on them and ride on them at 30 mph on the road) but either way electric motorcycles are definitely also switching to electric, just not in the US where they're mostly leisure vehicles. China is making and using a decent amount of electric motorcycles
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago>plenty of electric motorcycles now And who's buying them? All I hear is loud pipes everywhere which is probably why motorcycle lovers buy them in the first place. >just not in the US where they're mostly leisure vehicles How come the leisure vehicle argument doesn't also apply to ICE cars then?
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoMotorbikes aren’t used for day to day usage in the USA like they are in Southeast Asia and China. But cars in the USA are, so they aren’t in the same usage bucket. Motorbikes have been mostly superseded by electric bikes in China. I’m sure the same thing will happen in Southeast Asia, but the last time I was there in 2016 it hadn’t happened yet.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoMotorcycles are definitely used for day to day in Europe where they're ICE and not electric.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoMaybe in some countries. Definitely not in Switzerland when I lived there.
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- Andrew6rant 2y agoI haven't driven too many EVs, but IMO, a 2021 Chevy Bolt drives quite differently than a 2023 Nissan Ariya. The Ariya's real heavy, but it's surprisingly nimble. The Bolt feels zippy and doesn't weigh much more than the average SUV. Definitely feel you on the appliance thing. Electric cars are almost too easy to drive.