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Now these seem to be truly artificially intelligent agents. Memory, volition, autonomy, something like an OODA loop or whatever you want to call it, and a persi

Now these seem to be truly artificially intelligent agents. Memory, volition, autonomy, something like an OODA loop or whatever you want to call it, and a persistent environment. Very nice concept, and I'm positive the learnings can be applied to more mundane business problems, too. If only I could get management to understand that a bunch of prompts shitting into eachother isn't "cutting-edge agentic AI"... But then again their jobs probably depend on selling something that looks like real innovation happening to the C-levels...

Carrok 2y ago
> If only I could get management to understand that a bunch of prompts shitting into eachother isn't "cutting-edge agentic AI"... It's unclear to me how the linked project is different from what you described. Plenty of existing agents have "memory" and many other things you named.
jsemrau 2y ago
>If only I could get management to understand that a bunch of prompts shitting into eachother isn't "cutting-edge agentic AI"... It should never be this way. Even with narrow AI, there needs to be a governance framework that helps measure the output and capture potential risks (hallucinations, wrong data / links, wrong summaries, etc)
- ElFitz 2y ago
  Do you have any resources on that topic? I’d be interested.
  - jsemrau 2y ago
    On narrow AI or generative AI Risk Management?
    - ElFitz 2y ago
      Risk management.
whatshisface 2y ago
Just so you know, the English noun for things that have been learned is, "lessons."
- mindcrime 2y ago
  Also: "learnings". https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learning https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learn... "knowledge or a piece of information obtained by study or experience" "I am already incorporating some of these learnings into my work and getting better results."
  - FeepingCreature 2y ago
    That example was added in 2022. https://web.archive.org/web/20190903044149/https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learning https://web.archive.org/web/20190903044149/https://dictionar... You can clearly see that the prior use was very different. Cambridge Dictionary just documents that it's in fact used that way. One may still disagree on whether it should be. "That's not English" is usually prescriptive, rather than descriptive. And though English does not have a central authority, individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves.
    - mindcrime 2y ago
      That example was added in 2022. I'm very sure that using "learnings" in a way that is roughly synonymous to "lessons" predates 2022 though. It may have only been added to that specific dictionary in 2022, but the usage is certainly older. "That's not English" is usually prescriptive, rather than descriptive. And though English does not have a central authority, individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves. Very true. :-)
    - digging 2y ago
      > individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves. I think, actually, it's the case that language evolves around those people who are too stubbornly prescriptivist.

Carrok 2y ago

> If only I could get management to understand that a bunch of prompts shitting into eachother isn't "cutting-edge agentic AI"... It's unclear to me how the linked project is different from what you described. Plenty of existing agents have "memory" and many other things you named.

jsemrau 2y ago

>If only I could get management to understand that a bunch of prompts shitting into eachother isn't "cutting-edge agentic AI"... It should never be this way. Even with narrow AI, there needs to be a governance framework that helps measure the output and capture potential risks (hallucinations, wrong data / links, wrong summaries, etc)

ElFitz 2y ago
Do you have any resources on that topic? I’d be interested.
- jsemrau 2y ago
  On narrow AI or generative AI Risk Management?
  - ElFitz 2y ago
    Risk management.

whatshisface 2y ago

Just so you know, the English noun for things that have been learned is, "lessons."

mindcrime 2y ago
Also: "learnings". https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learning https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learn... "knowledge or a piece of information obtained by study or experience" "I am already incorporating some of these learnings into my work and getting better results."
- FeepingCreature 2y ago
  That example was added in 2022. https://web.archive.org/web/20190903044149/https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/learning https://web.archive.org/web/20190903044149/https://dictionar... You can clearly see that the prior use was very different. Cambridge Dictionary just documents that it's in fact used that way. One may still disagree on whether it should be. "That's not English" is usually prescriptive, rather than descriptive. And though English does not have a central authority, individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves.
  - mindcrime 2y ago
    That example was added in 2022. I'm very sure that using "learnings" in a way that is roughly synonymous to "lessons" predates 2022 though. It may have only been added to that specific dictionary in 2022, but the usage is certainly older. "That's not English" is usually prescriptive, rather than descriptive. And though English does not have a central authority, individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves. Very true. :-)
  - digging 2y ago
    > individuals are very much allowed to hold prescriptive beliefs - that is how language evolves. I think, actually, it's the case that language evolves around those people who are too stubbornly prescriptivist.