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If Ukraine falls because USA cuts off aid expect every mid power in the world (South Korea / Japan / Australia / Italy etc) to begin their own nuclear weapons p

If Ukraine falls because USA cuts off aid expect every mid power in the world (South Korea / Japan / Australia / Italy etc) to begin their own nuclear weapons program immediately. “Losing its reputation” is an enormous understatement.

nradov 2y ago
It's pretty clear to every world leader now that the only guarantee of security is to have your own nuclear weapons, or to have a solid mutual defense treaty with a nuclear power. President Zelensky has basically stated that if Ukraine doesn't receive sufficient conventional military aid then they'll be forced to pursue nuclear weapons development. Whether they are actually capable of doing this before being conquered by Russia is unknown: they have multiple civilian nuclear power plants and skilled engineers but still it takes a lot to build an operational weapons system including the delivery platform. https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-membership-progress-donald-trump-brussels-1970816 https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-membership-progress-do... Regardless of what ultimately happens in Ukraine, nuclear proliferation is obviously going to accelerate. This is the very real consequence of the international community failing to collectively oppose Russian aggression.
- HDThoreaun 2y ago
  If ukraine builds a credible nucellar program NATO likely sides with russia to end the war asap. Zero appetite for nuclear war
  - nojvek 2y ago
    Russia has quite a bit of apetite for nuclear war. They wouldn’t be poking the bear otherwise.
    - HDThoreaun 2y ago
      Which is why NATO wont let ukraine get nukes. Cant stop russia from getting nukes so only option is stopping ukraine.
      - nojvek 2y ago
        NATO can’t do shit. Ukraine should get nukes like North Korea has. It’s the ultimate card for deterrence. One you have nuclear weapons, no one fucks around. Russia would have not invaded if Ukraine had nuclear weapons. Period. US is tip-toeing with Russia because they have nuclear weapons. If they didn’t we’d be raining missiles on them like we did Iraq. Iran will get nuclear missiles. They see how US behaves with North Korea.

nradov 2y ago

It's pretty clear to every world leader now that the only guarantee of security is to have your own nuclear weapons, or to have a solid mutual defense treaty with a nuclear power. President Zelensky has basically stated that if Ukraine doesn't receive sufficient conventional military aid then they'll be forced to pursue nuclear weapons development. Whether they are actually capable of doing this before being conquered by Russia is unknown: they have multiple civilian nuclear power plants and skilled engineers but still it takes a lot to build an operational weapons system including the delivery platform. https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-membership-progress-donald-trump-brussels-1970816 https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-membership-progress-do... Regardless of what ultimately happens in Ukraine, nuclear proliferation is obviously going to accelerate. This is the very real consequence of the international community failing to collectively oppose Russian aggression.

HDThoreaun 2y ago
If ukraine builds a credible nucellar program NATO likely sides with russia to end the war asap. Zero appetite for nuclear war
- nojvek 2y ago
  Russia has quite a bit of apetite for nuclear war. They wouldn’t be poking the bear otherwise.
  - HDThoreaun 2y ago
    Which is why NATO wont let ukraine get nukes. Cant stop russia from getting nukes so only option is stopping ukraine.
    - nojvek 2y ago
      NATO can’t do shit. Ukraine should get nukes like North Korea has. It’s the ultimate card for deterrence. One you have nuclear weapons, no one fucks around. Russia would have not invaded if Ukraine had nuclear weapons. Period. US is tip-toeing with Russia because they have nuclear weapons. If they didn’t we’d be raining missiles on them like we did Iraq. Iran will get nuclear missiles. They see how US behaves with North Korea.