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One thing that would really get me to consider buying a Tesla is to add a few high quality _assignable_ knobs and controls that I could configure to control rad

One thing that would really get me to consider buying a Tesla is to add a few high quality _assignable_ knobs and controls that I could configure to control radio volume, heat, or whatever function I'd like. (within reason) Oh and real indicator stalks, that would be nice too.

GenerWork 2y ago
Enhance Auto has intriguing products that may be right up your alley[0]. That being said, they're obviously aftermarket and not OEM. Last I heard they were working on aftermarket stalks, but I'm not sure where they're at on that project. [0] https://enhauto.com/knob https://enhauto.com/knob
- amluto 2y ago
  They lost me at: > The S3XY Knob comes with a Gen2 Commander, which adds unique automation to your Tesla, such as automatically restarting your Autopilot after a lane change and turning off the wipers during AP drives. [emphasis added] At what point should a company that builds products like that be liable for the damages they encourage? For that matter, reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter are crimes in many jurisdictions.
  - nerdponx 2y ago
    > For that matter, reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter are crimes in many jurisdictions. Yeah but good luck actually getting someone charged and convicted for these when a motor vehicle is involved.
modeless 2y ago
There are some third party buttons like that: https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+buttons https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+buttons
hinkley 2y ago
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- zwily 2y ago
  Given TSLA’s last earnings, lots of people are.
- adventured 2y ago
  You give Musk money every time you pay taxes. Or if you're outside the US, anytime you touch anything economic that has ever been priced in US Dollars (since the US runs a huge budget deficit which it finances through printing dollars, aka debt monetization, which is partially paid for by foreigners who interact with the USD directly or indirectly).
- MostlyStable 2y ago
  Assuming that a Tesla is a vehicle that you would enjoy more than an alternative vehicle option or that would better fit your needs (which is presumably the situation if you are considering buying one), then the value you are giving up for yourself by going with an inferior-for-your-needs option far, far outweighs the money from an individual sale that goes to Musk. If you are willing to hurt yourself more than you are hurting Musk, then I guess sure, you do you.
  - vouwfietsman 2y ago
    Are you criticizing the entire concept of a boycott?
    - MostlyStable 2y ago
      I don't know why people feel this need to take the words that someone said and add an entirely new meaning to them. Notice that nowhere in my comment or the comment that I replied to does the word "boycott" appear (and the first comment doesn't even really suggest one). So much of the poor quality of discourse online is people doing exactly what you did: take a comment someone made and decide to interpret it in a way that makes the commenter seem bad and the person reading it feel good. Here is (in my opinion) the civil way to make your point: Yeah, it's probably true that the value to the individual is greater than the value that Musk gets (this is the entire concept of consumer surplus), but in some cases, an individual might feel it justified to take a hit for moral reasons, such as in a Boycott. You are replying to the thing I actually said and inviting further discourse rather than asking a rhetorical question that you believe (likely incorrectly) that you already know the answer to.
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djaychela 2y ago
> Oh and real indicator stalks, that would be nice too. IMO that should be the law.
- electriclove 2y ago
  Nah, let the market decide
  - bitsandboots 2y ago
    It's fine for the market to decide on things that don't impact others, but car crashes take victims beyond those who made poor purchases.
m463 2y ago
People with older teslas don't want to get the new ones. They did away with all the stalks. The car guesses which direction you want to drive. Turn signals are buttons on the (rotating) steering wheel (or yoke). The worst is that the touchscreen has very tiny targets. There's nowhere to rest your hands, you have to stab at them from the driver's seat (in a moving car) sigh.
- nerdponx 2y ago
  Tesla vehicles seem like they're designed to be as stupid and dangerous as possible sometimes.

GenerWork 2y ago

Enhance Auto has intriguing products that may be right up your alley[0]. That being said, they're obviously aftermarket and not OEM. Last I heard they were working on aftermarket stalks, but I'm not sure where they're at on that project. [0] https://enhauto.com/knob https://enhauto.com/knob

amluto 2y ago
They lost me at: > The S3XY Knob comes with a Gen2 Commander, which adds unique automation to your Tesla, such as automatically restarting your Autopilot after a lane change and turning off the wipers during AP drives. [emphasis added] At what point should a company that builds products like that be liable for the damages they encourage? For that matter, reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter are crimes in many jurisdictions.
- nerdponx 2y ago
  > For that matter, reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter are crimes in many jurisdictions. Yeah but good luck actually getting someone charged and convicted for these when a motor vehicle is involved.

modeless 2y ago

There are some third party buttons like that: https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+buttons https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+buttons

hinkley 2y ago

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zwily 2y ago
Given TSLA’s last earnings, lots of people are.
adventured 2y ago
You give Musk money every time you pay taxes. Or if you're outside the US, anytime you touch anything economic that has ever been priced in US Dollars (since the US runs a huge budget deficit which it finances through printing dollars, aka debt monetization, which is partially paid for by foreigners who interact with the USD directly or indirectly).
MostlyStable 2y ago
Assuming that a Tesla is a vehicle that you would enjoy more than an alternative vehicle option or that would better fit your needs (which is presumably the situation if you are considering buying one), then the value you are giving up for yourself by going with an inferior-for-your-needs option far, far outweighs the money from an individual sale that goes to Musk. If you are willing to hurt yourself more than you are hurting Musk, then I guess sure, you do you.
- vouwfietsman 2y ago
  Are you criticizing the entire concept of a boycott?
  - MostlyStable 2y ago
    I don't know why people feel this need to take the words that someone said and add an entirely new meaning to them. Notice that nowhere in my comment or the comment that I replied to does the word "boycott" appear (and the first comment doesn't even really suggest one). So much of the poor quality of discourse online is people doing exactly what you did: take a comment someone made and decide to interpret it in a way that makes the commenter seem bad and the person reading it feel good. Here is (in my opinion) the civil way to make your point: Yeah, it's probably true that the value to the individual is greater than the value that Musk gets (this is the entire concept of consumer surplus), but in some cases, an individual might feel it justified to take a hit for moral reasons, such as in a Boycott. You are replying to the thing I actually said and inviting further discourse rather than asking a rhetorical question that you believe (likely incorrectly) that you already know the answer to.

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djaychela 2y ago

> Oh and real indicator stalks, that would be nice too. IMO that should be the law.

electriclove 2y ago
Nah, let the market decide
- bitsandboots 2y ago
  It's fine for the market to decide on things that don't impact others, but car crashes take victims beyond those who made poor purchases.

m463 2y ago

People with older teslas don't want to get the new ones. They did away with all the stalks. The car guesses which direction you want to drive. Turn signals are buttons on the (rotating) steering wheel (or yoke). The worst is that the touchscreen has very tiny targets. There's nowhere to rest your hands, you have to stab at them from the driver's seat (in a moving car) sigh.

nerdponx 2y ago
Tesla vehicles seem like they're designed to be as stupid and dangerous as possible sometimes.