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On Windows you have to either download the driver updates manually, or install that GeForce Experience thing that keeps them up to date for you.

esperent 2y ago
There's a third party utility program you can use, it notifies you of new versions and lets you skip installing a lot of the bloatware like GeForce. I think it's called NV Install.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  GeForce Experience is optional. I can't fathom why people want to abstract something as simple as downloading the drivers straight from Nvidia and installing it, but then again people (perhaps rightfully) don't understand WTF a computer is.
  - Dwedit 2y ago
    In the past, GeForce Experience had game streaming functionality. Similar to VNC, but using hardware-accelerated video codecs, and supports joysticks and sound. GeForce Experience removed the game streaming feature in 2023, but the protocol was reverse-engineered, and there's compatible third-party tools for game streaming. Sunshine is the server, and Moonlight is the client. It works a lot better than Miracast.
    - richardfey 2y ago
      It was working also on devices like the Shield.
    - KaoruAoiShiho 2y ago
      Umm no it didn't. The game streaming is still there and I use it literally every day to access my windows PCs from my macs.
  - oefrha 2y ago
    I download drivers straight from nvidia.com and it takes many steps: go to drivers page, choose product series, choose product (choices don’t seem to matter but who knows if that’s gonna change at some point), click start search, click on the search result to go to driver page, click download, run installer, click click click click click. It’s a hassle compared to updating just about anything else on my machines. I only do it because (1) GeForce Experience requires logging in with Nvidia account and seems to log me out every time; (2) when GeForce Experience updates the driver it seems to pause forever doing god knows what between finishing the download and starting to install.
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      >(choices don’t seem to matter but who knows if that’s gonna change at some point) They do matter, you're just lucky(?) always using hardware and software environments that are always covered by the first thing on the list. If you don't want to specify details and run an installer, that's squarely a You problem.
      - oefrha 2y ago
        That you “can’t fathom” why people want to automate a multi-minute chore is a “You problem”, really.
      - mulmen 2y ago
        I read that as “no matter what I choose I get the same file but I still make the correct choice because Nvidia knows better than I do.”
  - lukan 2y ago
    "I can't fathom why people want to abstract something as simple as downloading the drivers straight from Nvidia and installing it, but then again people" I think I do understand WTF a computer is, yet at some point I also had a tool on windows installed, that automatically downloaded ALL of the drivers for all devices. Convenient, but the main reason I installed the thing was, because it could install drivers I did not even find on official websites. But just out of curiosity, if you understand what a computer is, why do you prefer manual labour and look down on people who automate things?
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      >why do you prefer manual labour Because driver updates I didn't strictly need have historically ruined my day more often than not. No, I'm not grabbing this driver update either. My Nvidia drivers are years old but they work fine, and I have better things to do than troubleshoot borkage stemming from drivers I didn't need to fix. Remember: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. >and look down on people who automate things? The specific audience here should know better than to delegate updates (let alone updates for system components) to some nebulous automated and/or all-in-one construct provided by third-parties to the hardware/driver vendor.
  - whywhywhywhy 2y ago
    There’s some weird desire for product managers working on the windows platform to build “Dashboards” in front of the most simple things.
    - chrisjj 2y ago
      It is advertising.
  - chrisjj 2y ago
    Perhaps people understand that having to accept so-called fixes from the source of such a serious problem is highly stressful.
- mrec 2y ago
  NVCleanInstall, maybe? I couldn't find anything called "NV Install". Personally I'm still running with the drivers that came with the box when I bought it in 2020. GeForce Experience is an abomination; besides the mind-boggling bloat, demanding that I create an account just to download a driver update really made me determined never to buy NVidia ever again.
  - 0points 2y ago
    GeForce Experience is optional.
  - esperent 2y ago
    Yes, apologies I was on my phone earlier and didn't find it from a quick search. But I just checked my laptop and that's the one I'm using. I allows stripping out some telemetry and a few other things beside GeForce experience.

esperent 2y ago

There's a third party utility program you can use, it notifies you of new versions and lets you skip installing a lot of the bloatware like GeForce. I think it's called NV Install.

Dalewyn 2y ago
GeForce Experience is optional. I can't fathom why people want to abstract something as simple as downloading the drivers straight from Nvidia and installing it, but then again people (perhaps rightfully) don't understand WTF a computer is.
- Dwedit 2y ago
  In the past, GeForce Experience had game streaming functionality. Similar to VNC, but using hardware-accelerated video codecs, and supports joysticks and sound. GeForce Experience removed the game streaming feature in 2023, but the protocol was reverse-engineered, and there's compatible third-party tools for game streaming. Sunshine is the server, and Moonlight is the client. It works a lot better than Miracast.
  - richardfey 2y ago
    It was working also on devices like the Shield.
  - KaoruAoiShiho 2y ago
    Umm no it didn't. The game streaming is still there and I use it literally every day to access my windows PCs from my macs.
- oefrha 2y ago
  I download drivers straight from nvidia.com and it takes many steps: go to drivers page, choose product series, choose product (choices don’t seem to matter but who knows if that’s gonna change at some point), click start search, click on the search result to go to driver page, click download, run installer, click click click click click. It’s a hassle compared to updating just about anything else on my machines. I only do it because (1) GeForce Experience requires logging in with Nvidia account and seems to log me out every time; (2) when GeForce Experience updates the driver it seems to pause forever doing god knows what between finishing the download and starting to install.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    >(choices don’t seem to matter but who knows if that’s gonna change at some point) They do matter, you're just lucky(?) always using hardware and software environments that are always covered by the first thing on the list. If you don't want to specify details and run an installer, that's squarely a You problem.
    - oefrha 2y ago
      That you “can’t fathom” why people want to automate a multi-minute chore is a “You problem”, really.
    - mulmen 2y ago
      I read that as “no matter what I choose I get the same file but I still make the correct choice because Nvidia knows better than I do.”
- lukan 2y ago
  "I can't fathom why people want to abstract something as simple as downloading the drivers straight from Nvidia and installing it, but then again people" I think I do understand WTF a computer is, yet at some point I also had a tool on windows installed, that automatically downloaded ALL of the drivers for all devices. Convenient, but the main reason I installed the thing was, because it could install drivers I did not even find on official websites. But just out of curiosity, if you understand what a computer is, why do you prefer manual labour and look down on people who automate things?
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    >why do you prefer manual labour Because driver updates I didn't strictly need have historically ruined my day more often than not. No, I'm not grabbing this driver update either. My Nvidia drivers are years old but they work fine, and I have better things to do than troubleshoot borkage stemming from drivers I didn't need to fix. Remember: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. >and look down on people who automate things? The specific audience here should know better than to delegate updates (let alone updates for system components) to some nebulous automated and/or all-in-one construct provided by third-parties to the hardware/driver vendor.
- whywhywhywhy 2y ago
  There’s some weird desire for product managers working on the windows platform to build “Dashboards” in front of the most simple things.
  - chrisjj 2y ago
    It is advertising.
- chrisjj 2y ago
  Perhaps people understand that having to accept so-called fixes from the source of such a serious problem is highly stressful.
mrec 2y ago
NVCleanInstall, maybe? I couldn't find anything called "NV Install". Personally I'm still running with the drivers that came with the box when I bought it in 2020. GeForce Experience is an abomination; besides the mind-boggling bloat, demanding that I create an account just to download a driver update really made me determined never to buy NVidia ever again.
- 0points 2y ago
  GeForce Experience is optional.
- esperent 2y ago
  Yes, apologies I was on my phone earlier and didn't find it from a quick search. But I just checked my laptop and that's the one I'm using. I allows stripping out some telemetry and a few other things beside GeForce experience.