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Half of Young Voters Say They've Lied about Which Candidates They Support
- downvotetruth 2y agoBut what amount lied about lying about which candidates they support?
- koollman 2y agothe other half
- undebuggable 2y agoThat's why I pass every time a fierce political discussion is just about to unleash. I have no reason to believe you and I have no possibility to verify what you're saying.
- detourdog 2y agoThis headline, the article wasn’t available. Seems like it’s greasy the wheels for a stolen election justification.
- r721 2y agoHere's the source article: https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies >Half of Gen Z voters — and 1 in 4 U.S. voters overall — have lied to people close to them about who they're voting for, according to the latest Axios Vibes survey by The Harris Poll. >Voters 18-27 who came of age during the hyper-polarized Trump era appear to be among the most sensitive to perceived pressure and judgment from friends or loved ones.
- AndrewDucker 2y agoOr they just don't want to get into a pointless argument with people who can make their life miserable.
- detourdog 2y agoI appreciate your effort but that isn't the article in the link which is published by the National review.
- legitster 2y agoIn the presented statistics, it's not so much about party as it is about age. Which tracks with my experience that young people are much more conflict averse. Also, interesting that men are twice as likely to lie as women. Which goes against accepted logic that women would be more likely to conform socially.
- locopati 2y agoNot odd at all really. Men who are voting Republican aren't going to get interest from people who vote Democrat, so they lie to make themselves look better than they are.
- lukev 2y agoThis might have something to do with the fact that young women skew so heavily democratic that there isn't any need to lie; it's already the default position for your social context.
- 98codes 2y agoUnless they aren't in a space where telling that truth is safe, be it from familial pressure, peer pressure, pressure from their significant other. Same for the young men, honestly.
- malfist 2y agoIt could also be that, for at least this election, a lot is a stake for women so they're more likely to be emboldened
- 98codes 2y ago> Which goes against accepted logic that women would be more likely to conform socially. Citation needed. Where is that coming from?
- westurner 2y agoHeels, yucky lipstick Conformity > Specific predictors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformity#Specific_predictors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformity#Specific_predictors
- SirMaster 2y agoIf they lied for the polls, who's to say they are telling the truth now for this? It's just another poll...
- init2null 2y agoGiven that I'm in my thirties, I'm not exactly in the audience being discussed here. But I've become skilled at lying about politics to my small-town coworkers and my older relatives. Telling someone the truth means I respect them enough to take the risk.
- JohnFen 2y agoWhy lie? What's wrong with just saying that you prefer not to talk about politics and refusing to express any opinion? That's what I do with coworkers who insist on trying to engage me in political topics (regardless of whether or not I agree with them.) I have a longstanding policy of never talking about politics or religion in the workplace. There be dragons.
- init2null 2y agoI get forced into political (and yes, religious) conversations. I avoid when I can, but sometimes it's less of a drive-by political swipe and more of a head-on collision into that load of toxic sludge. My coworkers feel comfortable forcing others into those conversations since everyone they spend time with seems to agree. Those that don't get socially shunned. They don't always tolerate silence either, so I find ways to work with them.
- muglug 2y agoArticle is clearly one-sided — it mentions a “widely-panned ad” encouraging women to vote their conscience, where pretty much all the panning has come from Republicans.
- MarkusQ 2y agoWe have got to stop acting like politics matters more than anything else. Yeah, it's kind of important. But so is having friends and family that you can talk to, and recognizing that they may not agree with you but...so what. People are allowed to have different thoughts, feelings, and opinions, and overall that's a good thing. Which pompous air bag gets to pretend like they're running the country for a few years isn't really a hill worth dying on, no matter how much their breathless funding messages tell you it is.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoIt's a hill that millions of people have died on. It's an incredible privilege to be in a position not to care.
- MarkusQ 2y agoNo. At most a dozen people have died over Trump v. Harris, and possible no one has. That's exactly the hyperbolic conflation of the present petty squabble with the grand march of civilization, as if they were the same or even closely related, that I'm objecting to.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoWith that attitude, the old man ruling the country would be King Charles of Windsor.
- giraffe_lady 2y agoNot everyone is lucky enough to be able to treat it like sports teams. You can't be friends with someone who disagrees about whether you should exist. It's hard to have a member of your family who thinks having a family like yours should be a crime. Healthcare policy for example is life or death. You don't always choose the hill you die on. Sometimes you need lifesaving medical care that is considered illegal abortion now. This is politics too and exposure to its risks is not evenly distributed. I'm glad they're not particularly distributed to you right now but some of us experience it differently.
- dfxm12 2y agoWhy do you want that heat? When I see attacks like the one that happened in my state about a month ago, I completely understand. https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/26/man-assaulted-at-democratic-rally-in-downtown-york/75400072007/ https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/26/man...
- xethos 2y agoYour plan is to carry a weapon best suited to long range, just in case of a close-quarters attack, at a crowded political rally? Because that sounds like a way to get more people hurt, not fewer, and not necessarily the assailant.
- crtasm 2y agocould we link the source directly instead of MSN's aggregator? https://www.nationalreview.com/news/half-of-young-voters-say-theyve-lied-about-which-candidates-they-support-new-poll-finds/ https://www.nationalreview.com/news/half-of-young-voters-say...
- defrost 2y agoThe National Review link provided opens by denying that it's the source: In a new Axios/Harris Poll survey, nearly half of Gen Z voters copped to lying about which candidates they support when they head to the polls. The paragraphs that follow quote from and cite: https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies as the source.
- crtasm 2y agoThanks, I don't know anything about Axios and was unaware they have their own website. Should have said "the article".
- defrost 2y agoNo worries .. the National Review were decent enough to indicate their source and even went the extra yards to include a link (although subtle). That is sadly becoming less common. The trick with reading news these days is to train yourself to look to source references, they're often present, increasingly (and annoying!!) not, finding them can be like looking for bent grass and broken twigs when game hunting.
- znpy 2y agoAbsolutely this makes sense. You can get a lot of bad social pressure if you reject conforming to what people around you push. And both left and right are very pushy in the us right now. If i was on the us, I’d probably lie too.