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I had a sweet tooth as a kid. I treat candy and ice cream like a drug addict does. It can't be in the house, I won't even let myself have some on special occasi

by reedf1 2y ago

I had a sweet tooth as a kid. I treat candy and ice cream like a drug addict does. It can't be in the house, I won't even let myself have some on special occasions. There is a circuit in my brain completely broken by this; evil.

meiraleal 2y ago
Same. I smoke weed regularly but the craving for sugar and then the crash can't compare to anything
l5870uoo9y 2y ago
Bitters take away the sweet tooth, such as grapefruit (especially organic), bitter tea or natural bitter drops. Eat a grapefruit after dinner and you cravings should be severely limited.
- thenobsta 2y ago
  I'm going to try this! Do you have a natural bitter drop that you like? Seems like there are a bunch of different formulations out there.
  - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
    I haven't tried any bitter drops as I only eat grapefruits. Got the advice from "leading" nutritionist in Germany – so it should be sound advice.
    - haccount 2y ago
      I spent a brief moment working close to nutritionists and completely lost faith in their ability to do anything correctly beyond counting calories.
      - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
        I have the same reservations, and not just about dietitians but also other scientific disciplines. Many dietitians are first and foremost businessmen selling various supplements. Whether the supplement is necessary, effective or even harmful is less important. The dietitians I trust document their dietary advice week after week by curing various ailments and diseases through scientific treatments (and they never recommend specific products): https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/rueckschau/index.html https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/r...
- whatshisface 2y ago
  Grapefruits tasted bitter when I was a kid... Now they're like oranges unless they're very unripe. I think they've been improving the cultivars.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    I would not be at all surprised. There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Figures they'd try to do the same to other fruits. Another one is brussels sprouts. They used to be a lot more bitter, but that has been largely bred out. It has made them way more popular, but part of me wishes it had not changed.
    - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
      Believe there was a zoo that started feeding monkeys with "modern" bananas and had to revert back to the old traditional banana, because the monkeys were getting diabetes.
      - rootusrootus 2y ago
        That's interesting. I thought gros michel bananas are actually sweeter than cavendish, not the other way around? They're otherwise closely related, IIRC. I wonder what they will come up with after cavendish fails?
    - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
      > There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Is there any food that won't make you fat if you overeat them? Generally "overeating" is what makes you fat.
      - rootusrootus 2y ago
        Sure, that is technically correct, which as they say is the best kind of correct. But as a practical matter, getting enough calories from granny smith apples to get fat is not feasible. On the other hand, you might have a shot if you developed a hankering for honeycrisps. More sugar, less fiber, way less protein.
- adastra22 2y ago
  Avoid grapefruit if you take ANY medication! It can seriously fuck you up.
  - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
    Grapefruit can interfere with some medications but not all. If you fear it might interfere, I would suggest asking your doctor.
    - adastra22 2y ago
      Obviously ask your doctor, but it would be more accurate to say that it interferes with most medication, with just a few that it does not. Grapefruit knocks out key metabolizing agents in the gut that is responsible for breaking down a lot of organic molecules. For this reason, the vast majority of medications are given out in relatively large dosages in order to survive the intestines and get to the bloodstream. But if you eat grapefruit, you get that full dosage in your blood. For some medication that doesn’t matter. Usually for prescription meds that is the exception. For most prescription meds, getting 5X the blood dose can range from debilitating to lethal. If you take a daily pill, imagine what might happen if you swallowed a week’s worth at once. If that gives you pause, don’t mix with grapefruit.
- pj_mukh 2y ago
  I wonder if Black coffee would also work here?
kevmo 2y ago
I'm not that far gone, but I am very selective about when I buy ice cream, because my fat ass will just eat it all within 2-3 days. Cannot have it around regularly.
matwood 2y ago
Some people are just wired differently. I can buy a box of cookies or pint of ice cream and eat a little bit and be completely happy. My wife otoh, eats all of it. We talk about it and she can't understand how I can have a single cookie and be happy. I would feel sick if I ate the whole box.
- poincaredisk 2y ago
  Incidentally, this is how I am with alcohol (Drinking a single beer or two makes my unhappy. I'm ok with not drinking, but when I start I usually drink a lot). I don't have this problem with sweets, though.
ssijak 2y ago
For me, sugar is the worst drug. Like, actually the only drug that is hard to not binge on and/or get off of. I must be 100% off of it for a few weeks and then I'm good, I don't crave or think about it. But if I take one row of chocolate or piece of cake, my brain will find ways to binge on a loooot more in the next period.
- loopdoend 2y ago
  Filling up on healthy food is key.
rootusrootus 2y ago
Yeah I have to keep sweets as a treat that requires me to go out for. I don't keep any sweets, including ice cream, inside the house. The temptation is too strong.
thesz 2y ago
[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1931610/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1931610/ Sweetness is more rewarding for rats than cocaine. [1] [2] https://www.addictionhelp.com/sugar/withdrawal-symptoms/ https://www.addictionhelp.com/sugar/withdrawal-symptoms/ In humans, sugar withdrawal symptoms are comparable to those of opiods withdrawal, often lasting much (up to 10 times) longer.

by reedf1 2y ago

meiraleal 2y ago

Same. I smoke weed regularly but the craving for sugar and then the crash can't compare to anything

l5870uoo9y 2y ago

Bitters take away the sweet tooth, such as grapefruit (especially organic), bitter tea or natural bitter drops. Eat a grapefruit after dinner and you cravings should be severely limited.

thenobsta 2y ago
I'm going to try this! Do you have a natural bitter drop that you like? Seems like there are a bunch of different formulations out there.
- l5870uoo9y 2y ago
  I haven't tried any bitter drops as I only eat grapefruits. Got the advice from "leading" nutritionist in Germany – so it should be sound advice.
  - haccount 2y ago
    I spent a brief moment working close to nutritionists and completely lost faith in their ability to do anything correctly beyond counting calories.
    - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
      I have the same reservations, and not just about dietitians but also other scientific disciplines. Many dietitians are first and foremost businessmen selling various supplements. Whether the supplement is necessary, effective or even harmful is less important. The dietitians I trust document their dietary advice week after week by curing various ailments and diseases through scientific treatments (and they never recommend specific products): https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/rueckschau/index.html https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/r...
whatshisface 2y ago
Grapefruits tasted bitter when I was a kid... Now they're like oranges unless they're very unripe. I think they've been improving the cultivars.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  I would not be at all surprised. There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Figures they'd try to do the same to other fruits. Another one is brussels sprouts. They used to be a lot more bitter, but that has been largely bred out. It has made them way more popular, but part of me wishes it had not changed.
  - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
    Believe there was a zoo that started feeding monkeys with "modern" bananas and had to revert back to the old traditional banana, because the monkeys were getting diabetes.
    - rootusrootus 2y ago
      That's interesting. I thought gros michel bananas are actually sweeter than cavendish, not the other way around? They're otherwise closely related, IIRC. I wonder what they will come up with after cavendish fails?
  - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
    > There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Is there any food that won't make you fat if you overeat them? Generally "overeating" is what makes you fat.
    - rootusrootus 2y ago
      Sure, that is technically correct, which as they say is the best kind of correct. But as a practical matter, getting enough calories from granny smith apples to get fat is not feasible. On the other hand, you might have a shot if you developed a hankering for honeycrisps. More sugar, less fiber, way less protein.
adastra22 2y ago
Avoid grapefruit if you take ANY medication! It can seriously fuck you up.
- l5870uoo9y 2y ago
  Grapefruit can interfere with some medications but not all. If you fear it might interfere, I would suggest asking your doctor.
  - adastra22 2y ago
    Obviously ask your doctor, but it would be more accurate to say that it interferes with most medication, with just a few that it does not. Grapefruit knocks out key metabolizing agents in the gut that is responsible for breaking down a lot of organic molecules. For this reason, the vast majority of medications are given out in relatively large dosages in order to survive the intestines and get to the bloodstream. But if you eat grapefruit, you get that full dosage in your blood. For some medication that doesn’t matter. Usually for prescription meds that is the exception. For most prescription meds, getting 5X the blood dose can range from debilitating to lethal. If you take a daily pill, imagine what might happen if you swallowed a week’s worth at once. If that gives you pause, don’t mix with grapefruit.
pj_mukh 2y ago
I wonder if Black coffee would also work here?

kevmo 2y ago

I'm not that far gone, but I am very selective about when I buy ice cream, because my fat ass will just eat it all within 2-3 days. Cannot have it around regularly.

matwood 2y ago

Some people are just wired differently. I can buy a box of cookies or pint of ice cream and eat a little bit and be completely happy. My wife otoh, eats all of it. We talk about it and she can't understand how I can have a single cookie and be happy. I would feel sick if I ate the whole box.

poincaredisk 2y ago
Incidentally, this is how I am with alcohol (Drinking a single beer or two makes my unhappy. I'm ok with not drinking, but when I start I usually drink a lot). I don't have this problem with sweets, though.

ssijak 2y ago

For me, sugar is the worst drug. Like, actually the only drug that is hard to not binge on and/or get off of. I must be 100% off of it for a few weeks and then I'm good, I don't crave or think about it. But if I take one row of chocolate or piece of cake, my brain will find ways to binge on a loooot more in the next period.

loopdoend 2y ago
Filling up on healthy food is key.

rootusrootus 2y ago

Yeah I have to keep sweets as a treat that requires me to go out for. I don't keep any sweets, including ice cream, inside the house. The temptation is too strong.

thesz 2y ago

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1931610/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1931610/ Sweetness is more rewarding for rats than cocaine. [1] [2] https://www.addictionhelp.com/sugar/withdrawal-symptoms/ https://www.addictionhelp.com/sugar/withdrawal-symptoms/ In humans, sugar withdrawal symptoms are comparable to those of opiods withdrawal, often lasting much (up to 10 times) longer.